Posted By:Leslie Coleman
Subject:Re: 1850 or 1860 Greene Twp., Trumbull Cty. census lookup
Post Date:December 11, 2003 at 06:04:16
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Thank so much for your response. Though I am surprised Robert W. & Submit (Rice) do not show in the 1850 & 1860 Greene census, you have provided me some helpful information - some clarification.

Since posting the original inquiry, I have established some add'l information. The elder Robert Crane (1768-1845)died in Greene; he is buried in the Old Kenilworth cemetery. His son Robert W. Crane's 1st wife Submit Rice was the daugh. of Aaron Rice Jr. Submit Rice was the sister of my gt. grandfather's (John Alonzo Coleman) first wife Sally Rice (1814-1854). Aaron Rice Jr. came to nearby Williamsfield in Ashtabula County prior to the War of 1812. He served in that war with a group from Ashtabula Cty. He returned to New York state and may not have come into Greene Township, Trumbull Cty. until 1829. (One historian states that is the year Aaron Rice Sr.came into Greene Twp. and I suspect he came with his son's family. The Sr. died in 1832) I descend from John Alonzo Coleman's second wife Druscilla Allen.

I found that Rev. Robert W. Crane & Submit had a child (Phineas) born in 1840 who died on 19 May 1842 and is buried where the elder Robert Crane is buried.

As I said previously, Rev. Robert W. Crane(b.1815) became an accomplished architect who designed the Methodist church that was built in 1877 Greene Twp. (dedicated on 14 Oct. 1877 at which time Rev. Crane was said to have been "a natural genius" for his architectural skills)as well as the Greene Town Hall (built in 1878 - which I understand stands today and is on the National Register of Historic buildings). I would have thought he lived in Greene in 1850 and 1860 but it is apparent they lived elsewhere; possibly in a neighboring township. And, since he must have had some formal training as an architect, they may have lived some distance away from Greene for a period of time. I have found that he did become, at a later date, the minister of that Greene Methodist church built in 1877. I found references to him in 1882 and 1888; in connection with that church. When Mary Hoskins wrote the Greene history in 1976 she stated that she knew some elderly residents who recalled Rev. Robert W. Crane - so he must have lived to an old age.

Thanks again - You have clarified for me who Submit Rice married; now I need to find out when she died and where she is buried. That she is not apparently buried where their son - who died in 1842 - is buried, perhaps is an indiction that the couple was living outside of this area when Submit died.

Les Coleman