Posted By:Marcia Richardson
Subject:Archers of Vernon (Oneida Castle), NY
Post Date:March 24, 2011 at 10:38:28
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Does anyone have more information about Matthew and Elizabeth Archer and their family? I just recently found Elizabeth's gravestone, which has conflicting information (see below).

From Compendium of Early Mohawk Valley Families
Archer, Matthew, son of Edward Archer, md. Elisabeth Morphey (dau. of Peter Morphey) 11/26/1789

From Geisenberg Church Records, Children of Mattheus and Elisabeth:

Thomas ger. d 28ten Aprill 1795 getauft 9ten May 1795, p.11 (127)
Parents: Mattheus Archer und frau Elisabeth Testes: Godlieb Schneyder und frau Rahel

Petrus gebr. d 4t Juny 1797 getauft d 2t July 1797, p. 23 (312)
Parents: Mattheus Archer und frau Elisabeth Testes: Petrus Resner und Catharina Coopman

Jacob gebr. d 20t October 1799 get. D 1t December 1799, p. 50 (682)
Parents: Mattheus Archer und frau Elisabeth Testes: Christoph Monk und frau Christina

Martinus geb. d 1t January 1802 get. d 17t Jan. 1802, p. 70 (980)
Parents: Mattheus Archer und frau Elisabeth Testes: Jacob Koehner und frau Elisabeth

Maria geb. d 23tn Febr. 1805 get. d 2tn Maerz 1806, p. 100 (1388)
Parents: Mattheus Archer und frau Elisabeth Testes: Adam Kessler un frau Maria

Catharina geb. d 31tn Jan. 1806 get. d 14tn Feb 1808, p. 109 (1508)
Parents: Mattheus Archer und frau Elisabeth Testes: Abraham F. Conterman und frau Catharina

Maria d. 10tn Feb. 1808 get. d 14tn Feb. 1808, p. 125 (1733)
Parents: Mattheus Archer und frau Elisabeth

John geb. d 23tn Aug. 1809 get. d 3tn Sept. 1809, p. 137 (1891)
Parents: Mattheus Archer und frau Elisabeth Testes: John G. Snyder and Margaretha Murphy
( Snyder, John G. NY HERKIMER CO. STARK 323 1850 )

Child of Peter Archer (son of Mattheus and Elisabeth?) and Elisabeth:
Jacob geb. 14tn Sept. get 27tn Sept. 1818, p. 216 (111)
Parents: Peter Archer und frau Elisabeth
Testes: Martin Archer und frau Elisabeth

Death Record Archer, [?], (son of Mathew Archer), b. 10/24/1799; d. 11/28/1805, age 6 years, 1 month, 4 days;

Oneida Castle Cemetery, Vernon, Oneida County, NY:

Elizabeth, wife of Matthew Archer who died Oct. 16, 1858
aged 107 years 5 months 20 days (date of birth 26 Apr 1751?)
(This would mean, based on the birth/christening dates in the Geisenberg Church, she was very old when she had her children (1790-1809 ages 39-58). I suppose this is possible, but unusual.)

Archers buried in Oneida Castle Cemetery, Oneida County, NY:
ARCHER, BETSY JUN. 27, 1844 31B 45 YRS. (born Abt. 1813)
ARCHER, ELIZABETH OCT. 15, 1858 106B 107 YRS. (born Abt. 1751)
ARCHER, PETER JAN. 02, 1875 106B 75 YRS. (born Abt. 1800)

1840 Census Minden, NY
Matthew Archer 1M age 70-79 1F age 70-79

1850 Census Vernon, Oneida County, NY
Peter Archer age 50 born NY $1500
Polly Archer age 44 born RI
Mary Archer age 3
Henry Archer age 13 born NY
Betsy Archer age 88 (born 1762?) born NY
(Is this Elizabeth Murphy Archer? That makes her age 96 or so in 1858 when she died and with a birthdate around 1762, which makes more sense (her children would have been born when she was between the ages of 28-46). I suppose it is even possible that her date of birth could be 26 April 1761, but I am just guessing.)

Does anyone have any idea how to get NY State records without paying a large amount of money for them to research a date, whether they find it or not (nonrefundable)? Can someone go there to look it up on their own? Or are the records just sitting there unaccessible?