Posted By:DJ Murphy
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Subject:Family Tree Descrepency... Please Help, Ugh!!!
Post Date:December 21, 2013 at 16:39:54
Message URL:http://genforum.genealogy.com/murphy/messages/11181.html
Forum:Murphy Family Genealogy Forum
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I have been putting together a Family Tree for my kids. I have Multiple Sclerosis (MS) and I want to leave them something for when my mind (and body) goes.

I have received a lot of help from family and various sites to get as far as I have. As thankful as I am, I think there may be a really BIG oops that will wipe out a large portion of my tree, but before I hit DELETE I need some assistance and outside opinion as if it is a mistake or not.

Here is the problem*...

John Douglas Murphy (b. 04 February 1930 in Michigan d. 02 May 1986 in Arizona)

...was born to...

Jessie Rae (Rita) (Rose) "Billie" (Wright) Murphy (1906 1982)

and

James Edgar Bernard Murphy (b. 24 April 1900 in Marion, Marion County, Ohio d. 26 Apr 1992 in Fullerton, Orange County, California)

...now the problem*...

a Family Member sent me a pre-made Family History on which I based the foundation of my Family Tree. Here is the section in question:

Mary Jane Ring, daughter of William J. & Ellen Whalen Ring, the father, a native of Ireland and the mother, of Pittsburgh, Pa., was wed to Lewis John Murphy* on April 24, 1883, in Vinton County, Minerton, Ohio.

Births:
Lewis John Murphy* b. October 20, 1856
Mary Jane Ring Murphy b. April 9, 1862
Emily E. Murphy b.January 30, 1884
William Sylvester Murphy b. July 3, 1885
Michael Murphy b. June 16, 1887
Mary M. Murphy b. May 21, 1888
John L. Murphy b. March 2, 1891
Lewis Murphy b. February 14,
Francis Robert Murphy b. December 2, 1897
Edgar Murphy b. April 24, 1900
Herman L. Murphy b. January 8, 1907

Weddings
Emily E. Murphy & Joseph Quinn [1905]
William S. Murphy & Alice Custy [November 26, 1907]
Mary Mae Murphy & Andrew Jackson Seckel [October 18, 1911]
Francis R. Murphy & Catherine Fizgerald . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 6, 1919

Deaths:
Michael Murphy (June 16, 1887 - June 19, 1887)
Lewis Murphy, Jr. (February 14,) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Emily E. Murphy Quinn (January 30, 1884 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1914
Lewis J. Murphy, Sr.* (October 20, 1856 - September 3, 1936)
Herman L. Murphy (January 8, 1907 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . April 3, 1941
Mary Jane Ring Murphy (April 9, 1862 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . January 4, 1949
John L. Murphy March 2, 1891 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . April 1955
Francis Robert Murphy December 2, 1897 . . . . . . . . . . . December 31, 1971
Mary May Murphy May 21, 1888 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . March 20, 1968
William S. Murphy July 3, 1885 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . March 26, 1960

The problem started when I started putting all the information into Ancestry.com. It was as if Lewis John Murphy, Sr.* (October 20, 1856 - September 3, 1936) had multiple personalities but the same birth and death dates on everyones trees. Even the documents had him born in multiple states (or countries) and at times his residences didn't coincide with other information on the Ancestry.com tree.

I am new at genealogy, as if you couldn't tell, and on my journeys thru the past I found a site I LoVe called FindAGrave.com. I started a profile there and began linking all my Ancestry people to FindAGrave. More importantly, when people didn't have a Memorial at FindAGrave I began adding a Memorial for them. this made me pay EXTRA CLOSE ATTENTION to the Ancestry documents that at times I would add willie-nilly and with disregard. This is how I dis covered the problem*.

All the Births are registered to:

Louis James Murphy Sr* married to Mary Jane Ring
NOT
Lewis John Murphy Sr* married to Mary Jane Ring

All the Census records list Lewis J* so there is no way of telling if Lewis John* is a typo or what. It is also possible John is the name he took in his baptism or christening, but there is no records of that that I can find.

Bottom line...

Are Louis James Murphy Sr* and Lewis John Murphy Sr* the same person? Or should I hit delete? And if I hit delete, what do I start with?

BTW:
I did try doing an Ancestry.com tree (separate from the Tree I have been working on) using the name Louis James Murphy Sr*, but it hasn't gone anywhere. There are a few Census forms with the kids and his wife, but no parents info or siblings info can be found.

THANK YOU ahead of time to ANY and ALL of you who even attempt this CHALLENGE! It is greatly appreciated.