Posted By:	Jim
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	Subject:	Re: Bernard De Neufmarche
	Post Date:	March 23, 2003 at 13:33:46
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Sorry, I wasn't as clear as I could have been regarding the Planche article (see link). The contention that Bernard de Saint-Valerie was the same as Bernard de Neufmarche is incorrect and, I thought, self-evident by reading the article. Another cousin was kind enough to point out that it wasn't quite as clear to anyone who had not seen the other references. So to clarify, the two Bernards are not the same person, but are related--Bernard de Saint-Valery was the great-uncle of Bernard de Neufmarche. The Planche article mentions Bernard Saint-Valery's brother, Richard Fitz Gulbert, who married Ada, widow of Herlouin de Hugleville (Turton, "Plantagenet Ancestry" (1968), p. 78 says she was his daughter), and by her was the father of Ada wife of Geoffrey de Neufmarche. Planche mentions that Richard and Ada had a son Gilbert, but does not mention his sister Ada. AR7:177 states "3. Nesta, m. Bernard de Neufmarche, d. 1093, Lord of Brecon, son of Geoffrey (son of Thurcytel) by Ada, dau. Richard Fitz Gulbert, seigneur of Hugleville and Auffay in Normandy…" Jim