Posted By:Kathleen Herron
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Subject:Re: Patrick or Paterick McGrath and Betsy Quigley
Post Date:February 04, 2013 at 18:37:56
Message URL:http://genforum.genealogy.com/ireland/messages/93873.html
Forum:Ireland Genealogy Forum
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Shawn,

More effective to post what you do have -- be flexible on reported dates of birth, let the documents lead the way

1871
Name:       Paterick McGrath
Age:       37
Estimated Birth Year:       abt 1834
Relation:       Head
Spouse's Name:       Betsy McGrath
Gender:       Male
Where born:       Limerick, Ireland
Civil parish:       St Anne Limehouse
County/Island:       London
Country:       England
Registration district:       Stepney
Sub-registration district:       Limehouse
ED, institution, or vessel:       20
Household schedule number:       136
Piece:       551
Folio:       166
Page Number:       26
Household Members:       
Name       Age
Paterick McGrath 37 Lim IRe
Betsy McGrath       35 ditto
John McGrath       16 St GEO Middlesex
Norah McGrath       7 Poplar Middlesex
Thomas McGrath       13 Greenwich? Kent


1861 - looking around ... in Kent, see Tom's place of birth

Name:       Patrick McGrath
Age:       28
Estimated Birth Year:       abt 1833
Relation:       Soldier
Gender:       Male
Where born:       Ireland
Civil parish:       Woolwich
Ecclesiastical parish:       St Mary
Town:       Woolwich
County/Island:       Kent
Country:       England
Registration district:       Greenwich
Sub-registration district:       Woolwich Dockyard
ED, institution, or vessel:       Royal Artillery Barracks


I see a nicely aged John McG living with an older couple "boarder" ...



But you have discarded Pat McG in the 1881 census - since James reports being born in the US on his marriage cert?

You don't have James in 1880 or 1900?

I'm wondering if he really was born in Maine? No sign of McGrath's in the US 1880 census ... wait -- you noted on the original of that marriage cert, James says father Patrick born in BANGOR and Mother Betsy, born HOLTON (Houlton) Maine ... ?

cert:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11073-186422-12?cc=1784223&wc=13971182







Looking at his enlistment record - residence **Bangor in 1903**; born Sherman Maine, b 1875
earch.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=1198&iid=MIUSA1798_102917-00173&fn=James&ln=Mcgrath&st=d&ssrc=&pid=1093080

Maybe this is his brother Tom - the only one born in Kent

Name:       Thomas Davenport McGrath
Date of Registration:       Oct-Nov-Dec 1857
Registration district:       Dover
Inferred County:       Kent
Volume:       2a
Page:       677 (click to see others on page)



Tom in Bangor - 1900?

Name:       Thomas Mcgrath
[Thomas Mc Grath]
Age:       42
Birth Date:       Aug 1857
Birthplace:       England
Home in 1900:       Bangor, Penobscot, Maine
[Penobscot]
Race:       White
Gender:       Male
Immigration Year:       **1889
Relation to Head of House:       Head
Marital Status:       Married
Spouse's Name:       Mary Mcgrath
Marriage Year:       1877
Years Married:       23
Father's Birthplace:       Ireland
Mother's Birthplace:       Ireland
Occupation:       View on Image
Neighbors:       View others on page
Household Members:       
Name       Age
Thomas Mcgrath       42 ENG
Mary Mcgrath       38 IRe
John Mcgrath       21 ENG (big gap in children; 2nd marriage?)
Thomas Mcgrath       14 ENG
Ellen Mcgrath       13 ENG
Sadie Mcgrath       12 Maine all the rest
Frank Mcgrath       9
Catherine Mcgrath       8
James Mcgrath       7
Mary Mcgrath       5
Florence Mcgrath       2
Mildred I Mcgrath       1/12

Name:       Thomas Mc Grath
[Thomas Mcgrath]
Age in 1910:       53
Birth Year:       abt 1857
[1857]
Birthplace:       Ireland
Home in 1910:       Bangor Ward 1, Penobscot, Maine
Race:       White
Gender:       Male
Immigration Year:       1868
Relation to Head of House:       Self (Head)
[Head]
Marital Status:       Married
Spouse's Name:       Mary Mcgrath
Father's Birthplace:       Ireland
Mother's Birthplace:       Ireland
Neighbors:       View others on page
Household Members:       
Name       Age
Thomas Mc Grath       53
Mary Mcgrath       48
John Mcgrath       30
Frank Mcgrath       20
James Mcgrath       16
Mary Mcgrath       15
Florence Mcgrath       11
Mildred Mcgrath       9