Posted By:Harrie Lamers
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Subject:Re: where did Abraham Martens Klock come from in Holland?
Post Date:August 06, 2012 at 02:26:00
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Forum:Holland Genealogy Forum
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Yes, you are right. I must construct another hypothesis for you.
I start from the first names, the baptismal names.
First Tryntie; that is in Latin Catharina, a Christian name.
Abraham. Mostly the jews and the protestant used biblical names. Catholics used names of Saints. Abraham indicates jewish or protestant origin. But Abraham married Tryntie (Christian name). so I suppose, that this man called Abraham is not jewish and not catholic. So, he may be a protestant.
From 1566 and on, the protestant reformation blow over the Netherlands, especially in the Holland cities, not over the farm land and not the villages. There, the people remained catholic as were their ancestors since about 700. In the cities in Holland (= the western part of the Netherlands along the sea) the teachers, soldiers and officials were compelled to become a member of one of the several protestant sects, mostly the remonstrants (tolerant) or the contra-remonstrants (fanatics).
If Abraham (the short Dutch name is Bram)was a protestant (my hypothesis) then he may have lived in the cities of: Utrecht, Leiden, Delft, Gouda, Den Haag, Scheveningen, Den Briel, Dordrecht.

Now a new problem: The catholic Council of Trente (1545) ruled out that the priests must have registers of baptismals and marriages. In the Netherlands in 1568 the Eighty-Year War (1568-1648) started, and these catholic regulations were introduced after the war, mostly about 1700. The protestant ministers adopted this catholic measure. So, the names can seldom be found in the baptismal books. But you may find names in notary documents, in tax documents.
So, try some Dutch on line sources for genealogy (included the catholic province of Brabant).
http://genealogie.startpagina.nl/
http://genealogie-archief.startpagina.nl/
http://www.stamboomforum.nl/familienamen/0/0
http://www.genlias.nl/en/search.jsp
http://www.geneanet.org/
http://www.geneaknowhow.net/digi/resources.html
http://www.bhic.nl/index.php?id=10004
http://eindhoven.digitalestamboom.nl/search.aspx?lang=en
http://www.digitalestamboom.nl/search.aspx?lang=en-US
http://www.geldersarchief.nl/zoeken/?mizk_alle=&mizig=128&miview=tbl
http://www.zeeuwengezocht.nl/en/search
https://stadsarchief.amsterdam.nl/english/archives_database/genealogy/doopregisters2/zoek/index.en.html
http://www.haarlem.digitalestamboom.nl/default.asp?lang=en
http://rotterdam.digitalestamboom.nl/search.aspx?app_route=8&lang=nl
http://www.utrechtsarchiefnet.nl/genealogie/doop-trouw-en-begraafboeken