Posted By:Gillian
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Subject:Re: Neville coat of arms
Post Date:January 14, 2009 at 09:59:25
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Thanks again, Matt,

Do you know Marcou’s book? On p.96, in the section of the Church of Panayia Khryseleousa, he continues past his description of the shield showing fess six fleur de lys, 3 above, 3 below with: “The first of this coat of arms appears on the tomb-stone of Dame Alice de Nevilles in the Armenian church in Nicosia”. In his section of the Armenian Church of the Virgin Mary, Nicosia, he does, indeed, illustrate “A fess between six fleur-de-lys, three, two one” with the fess being shown as a broad band, as opposed to the single line that I see on the church at Lysos, but he ascribes this to “Mary de Mulmars 1393”.

So, as you say, we have an Alice Nevilles out in Cyprus. And www.humphrysfamilytree.com/Mortimer shows the great-granddaughter of Roger Mortimer of Wigmore being married to Maud de Braose, and their having a great-grand-daughter Alice de Audley marrying Ralph Neville, while http://mypages.allwest.com shows Richad, Lord Percy marrying 1. Joan Alicea Braose, 2.Agnes Neville. Could “Mulmars” be “Mortimer”? I think that Mortimer means “Dead Sea”. I am afraid that I failed to get into your first suggestion, both from your first and your subsequent postings. I will try further.

I understand that Braose should show a lion rampant against a fleur-de-lys or crosslet background. The architect responsible for overseeing the recent restoration of the church is a good friend. I asked him if the coats of arms are originals; he replied that they are. I asked whether there were any holes or any indications that something had been fixed in front of them. He replied that there are not. There would not have been anyway, the design of the arms is complete – perfectly balanced. Beautiful, really.

Curious.

Gillian