Posted By:Juergen Faustus
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Subject:Re: Can different individuals have the same coat of arms?
Post Date:October 22, 2012 at 07:55:18
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Forum:Coat of Arms Forum
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Not just Polish! Several families sharing arms is a more widespread practis in Eastern Europe:
The arms of the ancient princely families of Russia, descending from a common ancestor, are often shared by several houses. For instance, the Princes Bariatinski use the same arms as the Princes Volkonsky (made famous in Tolstoy's, "War and Peace"), since both descend from Sviatoslav II, Grand Prince of Kiev, originator of the Tshernigov brqanch of the house of Riurik.
Gorchakov. The arms of Tshernigov. are a gold shield with a crowned black eagle holding an orb in its sinister talon, an elongated cross in its dexter talon, held across its body on the diagonal.
Kiev. The arms of Kiev are the Archangel Mikhail holding a fiery sword.
The Tshernigov branch of the house of Riurik, are simplified as a sable eagle, crowned or, holding a golden cross at the tip of a gold pole in its sinister talon (reversed from dexter)at a digonal and across its body;these, imnpaled in the Wife's position, with the arms of Kiev in the Husband's position, are for both the Bariatinskis and the Volkonskys.