Posted By:Carolyn La Porte
Subject:Re: Mary Ellen Osbaldeston married to Frederick Horton
Post Date:September 06, 2012 at 17:34:49
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Mary Ellen's death shows her as Ellen Horton
Died July 27, 1937 as you said
birth shown as July 28, 1850 Goderich Township

So she died one day before her birthday. She was 87
Son Alex Horton was the informant
Parent's name shown as not known

But since she was born in 1850 ON she should be in the 1851 and later census records.

I could not find marriage for Frederick and Mary Ellen but there is this Osbaledeston marriage

William married in 1878, Huron Co. his parents William and Mariah
He was age 21 so born about 1857

John, farmer, age 48, born England

Emma, age 48, born England

Mathew, age 23, born Canada

Dan, age 17, born Canada

Anne, age 16, born Canada

Jesse, age 9, born Canada

Alex O., age 17, born Canada

Mary E., age 10, born Canada

William, age 3, born Canada

so it looks like they were not with their parents - who perhaps had died?
as the census page does not separate families I am not sure if they are actually living with the Grummet family or if Alex is head of family but thought I would put both just in case
** William matches with age of the William I found in marriages

I looked for a marriage for Alex and found one which shows Alexander Osbalderton age 29, married 1900 Huron - his parents Alex Osbaldeston and Mariah Rapson so perhaps a son of Alex from 1861 census

I am having a problem finding the Osbaldeston family in 1851 to confirm parents.

I am wondering if the marriage record for William has his parent's names wrong as William and Mariah - because I found a site - www.

which has the 1842 town assessments and for Goderich there is only one Osbaldeston listed and his name is Alexander

OK it get more interesting - there is a tree o that shows
Alexander Osbaldeston the 2nd, born Aug. 14, 1844 Huron County ON, son of Alexander Osbaldeston and Emma Rye
He is shown married Oct. 5, 1868 to Maria Rapson.

They had children Alexander, 1871 (fits with marriage I found) Audrey, 1873, Herbert 1877 and Mary Ellen/Nellie 1880

This tree only shows two children for Alexander and Emma - Alexander (1844) and Emma (1842) they give no sources so they may be missing children
They also do not show any birth, marriage or death info for 1st Alexander or wife Emma Rye

So a bit of a mystery still. From census it does look likely that Alexander (1844) Mary E. (1850) and William (1858) are siblings. If that is true, then if we could find deaths for Alexander and William they may show their parents names to confirm if the tree is correct.

there is another tree on that shows Emma Rye as married to Alexander Osbaldeston and says they had 6 children:
Maria, Henry, Susanna, Emma, Mary Ellen and William - no birth years shown and they don't include Alexander int he children

It shows Mary Ellen married Frederick Horton so that does match with your info but still no sources to prove these are the right parents

They have Susana married to John Horton - I see there are some Horton marriages which show these two as parents

William married to Mary Ann Jones - which matches the marriage I found except marriage shows Wm's parents as William and Mariah , not Alexander and Emma so???

Emma married to John Rapson - matches what I found I'm ON marriages - but she is shown as Emma Oswald - parents Alexander and Emma

Henry - they show no marriage for him
Maria - they show married to a William Dixon - I didn't find their marriage

so more info, but no absolute info to prove the connection

Find a Grave has burial of William Osbaldeston, born 1858, died 1947, buried Fort Saskatchewan cemetery, Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta - but no parents names shown.

Maybe someone else will have some luck in finding the family in 1851 census which should prove parents of Mary Ellen for you.

Carolyn L