Posted By:Carolyn La Porte
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Subject:Re: John Francis Butler I
Post Date:September 07, 2011 at 11:34:54
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Hi Luanne,


I just found his WW1 attestation paper dated Sept. 22, 1914, which says

John Francis Butler
Born Conception Harbor, NFLD
May 9, 1896
Teamster
Next of kin - Mrs. Ellen M. Butler
150 Richmond St. Sydney, NS
Not married so Ellen must be his mother I would think
He is age 18 years, 4 months
He is 5' -9" tall
fair complexion, blue eyes, light hair
Roman Catholic
mole on left thigh

Here is the indexed entry

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918 about John Francis Butler
Name:       John Francis Butler
Birth Date:       9 May 1886
Birth Location:       Conseption Hartor, Newfoundland
Relative:       Mrs Allen M Butler
Regiment Number:       41476

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So he was in Nova Scotia in 1914 so looked for him there in 1911 census and this fits.

1911 CAPE BRETON SOUTH, NOVA SCOTIA
64 LEONARD ST.
BUTLER
Philip, age 45, foreman, steel co. born Sept. 1865, NFLD

Gella, age 43, wife, born Feb. 1868 NFLD ( is Ellen in image)

Leo, age 19, son, hackman, steel co. born Oct. 1892, NFLD

James, age 17, son, ...........steel co., born Nov. 1894, NFLD

John, age 11, son, salesman, meat market, born May 1896, NFLD (age does look like 11 but obviously for 1896 he is not 11)

Kate, age 12, daughter, born June 1898 NFLD

Stephen, age 11, son, born March 1900 NFLD

Madeline, age 8, daughter, born Aug. 1902 NFLD

RYAN
Mary, age 18, servant, domestic, private house, born Nov. 1894 NFLD - arrived NS in 1909

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all the Butler family arrived in NS in 1907


I found this WW11 draft reg. for OH, USA

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about John Francis Butler
Name:       John Francis Butler
Birth Date:       9 May 1896
Birth Place:       Conception Narbor, Canada
Residence:       Cuyahoga, Ohio
Race:       White

Image shows wife Jeannette Frances Butler

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this looks likely

1930 CLEVELAND, CUYAHOGA, OH
BUTTER, (Butler in image)

John , age 35, switchman, steam railroad, born Canada English both parents born Canada English, immigrated 1919

Jeanette, age 35, wife, born OH father born England mother born OH

Jeannette, age 6, daughter born OH father born Canada English mother born OH

Estelle, age 5, daughter, born OH father born Canada English mother born OH

Leonarda, age 2-10/12, daughter, born OH father born Canada English mother born OH (name looks like Leonida in image)

John age 1-8/12, son, born OH father born Canada English mother born OH

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Ohio Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-1944, and 1958-2007 about John F Butler
Name:       John F Butler
Birth Date:       1896
Gender:       Male
Race:       White
Residence City:       Cleveland
Residence County:       Cuyahoga
Residence state:       Ohio
Residence Country:       United States
Death Date:       28 May 1967
Hospital of Death:       St Johns Hospital of Cleveland
City of Death:       Cleveland
County of Death:       Cuyahoga
Certificate:       34969
Age at Death:       71
Certifier:       Physician
Autopsy:       Yes, used for certification
Marital Status:       Widowed
Census Tract:       2106

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Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 about John F Butler
Name:       John F Butler
Arrival Date:       24 Jul 1919
Port of Arrival:       St Albans, Vermont, United States
Age:       22
Birth Date:       abt 1897
Birth Place:       Newfoundland
Birth Country:       Canada
Gender:       Male
Race/Nationality:       Irish
Record Type:       Manifests

Image says:
Father's name P.F. Butler, Halifax, NS
John is going to Cleveland, OH
he paid his own passage
going to Aunt- Mrs. Buck, 3818 Lorrain Ave. Cleveland, OH
going for one month
He is 5' 9" tall, fair complexion, brown hair blue eyes,
born Conception Harbor, NFLD

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Here is the Aunt in 1920

1920 CLEVELAND WARD 8, CAYUHOGA, OH
3818 LORAIN AVE.
BUCK
Anna, age 55, single, born NFLD both parents born NFLD immigrated 1900

John, age 23, nephew, teller, bank,born OH both parents born NFLD

James, age 20, nephew, salesman, stationary, clothing store, born OH both parents born NFLD

I went to familysearch.org and they have marriage


Ohio, County Marriages, 1790-1950

birth:       1896
marriage:       15 Jul 1922 —Cuyahoga County, Ohio
parents:       Philip F., Ellen M. Buck
spouse:       Jeannette F. Gavan
       
record title:       Ohio, County Marriages, 1790-1950
name:       John F. Butler
event:       Marriage
event date:       15 Jul 1922
event place:       Cuyahoga County, Ohio
age:       26
estimated birth year:       1896
father:       Philip F.
mother:       Ellen M. Buck
spouse:       Jeannette F. Gavan
spouse's age:       27
spouse's estimated birth year:       1895
spouse's father:       James
spouse's mother:       Jane Hoover
digital folder number:

So his mother was sister to Ann Buck - Aunt in OH

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This looks like it may be death for Jeanette

Ohio Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-1944, and 1958-2007 about Jeannet F Butler
Name:       Jeannet F Butler
Birth Date:       1894
Gender:       Female
Race:       White
Residence City:       Cleveland
Residence County:       Cuyahoga
Residence state:       Ohio
Residence Country:       United States
Death Date:       22 Oct 1962
Hospital of Death:       St Johns Hospital of Cleveland
City of Death:       Cleveland
County of Death:       Cuyahoga
Certificate:       71926
Age at Death:       68
Certifier:       Physician
Autopsy:       Yes, used for certification
Marital Status:       Married
Census Tract:       7241

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I guess when he went for one month to his Aunt he stayed.


Here is a border crossing for his father Philip who was going to visit a daughter in Buffalo, NY

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 about Philip Francis Butler
Name:       Philip Francis Butler
Arrival Date:       6 Oct 1923
Port of Arrival:       Buffalo, New York, United States
Arrival Contact:       Daughter Mrs W F Parson
Departure Contact:       Wife Ellen Sidney
Age:       55
Birth Date:       abt 1868
Birth Place:       B??Dge, New York
Gender:       Male
Race/Nationality:       Irish
Record has photo?:       No
Record Type:       Cards


It shows his wife Ellen as his contact in Canada - in Sydney, NS
I think it says name of daughter is Mrs. WF. Parson
Birthplace is not shown so I don't know why they show NY
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There is another crossing for him in 1924, also going to daughter Mrs. Parson
In this one his birthplace is shown as Argyle, NFLD

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 about Philip F Butler
Name:       Philip F Butler
Arrival Date:       May 1924
Port of Arrival:       St Albans, Vermont, United States
Age:       55
Birth Date:       abt 1869
Birth Place:       Newfoundland
Birth Country:       Canada
Gender:       Male
Race/Nationality:       Irish
Record Type:       Manifests

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AND here is Ellen crossing in 1923 and 1924 in 1923 she travels just 3 days after Philip


Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 about Ellen M Butler
Name:       Ellen M Butler
Arrival Date:       9 Oct 1923
Port of Arrival:       Niagara Falls, New York, United States
Arrival Contact:       Husband Philip F
Departure Contact:       Son Stephen
Age:       55
Birth Date:       abt 1868
Birth Place:       Conception, Newfoundland
Gender:       Female
Race/Nationality:       Irish
Record has photo?:       No
Record Type:       Cards


She is shown as going to husband Philip
Where asked if ever in US before it shows yes, 1922 to Cleveland
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Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 about Ellen M Butler
Name:       Ellen M Butler
Arrival Date:       May 1924
Port of Arrival:       St Albans, Vermont, United States
Age:       55
Birth Date:       abt 1869
Birth Place:       Newfoundland
Birth Country:       Canada
Gender:       Female
Race/Nationality:       Irish
Record Type:       Manifests

Canada contact is son Stephen in Sidney, NS
She is going to Buffalo to husband Philip
She was born Conception, NFLD
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I wonder why they didn't travel together

So the daughter who is Mrs. Parson must be either Kate of Madeline so tried for both

Here she is crossing to US

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 about Madeline Parsons
Name:       Madeline Parsons
Arrival Date:       Apr 1923
Port of Arrival:       St Albans, Vermont, United States
Age:       21
Birth Date:       abt 1902
Birth Place:       Newfoundland
Birth Country:       Canada
Gender:       Female
Race/Nationality:       Irish
Record Type:       Manifests

Says:
She is 21
Canada contact- mother Ellen Butler, 208 Townsend St. Sidney NS
She is going to Buffalo, NY
She paid her own passage
She is going to husband William, 186 Priers Ave. Buffalo, NY to stay permanently

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1930 BUFFALO, ERIE, NY
PARSONS
William F., age 29, laborer, cement, born NFLD both parents born NFLD immigrated 1923

Madaline, age 27, wife, born NFLD both parents born NFLD immigrated 1923

Pheobanna, age 6, daughter, born NY both parents born NFLD

Madaline, age 2-1/2, daughter, born NY both parents born NFLD

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AND got lucky as on same page

SOMMERS
James, age 32, operator, crane, born NFLD both parents born NFLD, immigrated 1923

Catherine, age 31, wife, born NFLD both parents born NFLD, immigrated 1923

Ellen, age 6, daughter, born Nova Scotia, both parents born NFLD

James, age 3-4/12, son, born NY both parents born NFLD

Thomas,a ge 1-11/12, son born NY both parents born NFLD

BUTLER
Philip, age 65, foreman, construction, father-in-law, born NFLD both parents born NFLD, immigrated 1923

Ellen, age 62, mother-in-law, born NFLD both parents born NFLD, immigrated 1923

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If they had not been on the same page I don't know if I would have found Catherine

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Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 about Catharine Somers
Name:       Catharine Somers
Arrival Date:       25 Oct 1923
Port of Arrival:       Niagara Falls, New York, United States
Arrival Contact:       Husband James Summers
Age:       25
Birth Date:       abt 1898
Birth Place:       St Johns, Newfoundland
Gender:       Female
Race/Nationality:       Irish
Record has photo?:       No
Record Type:       Cards

Canada contact - Brother Stephen Butler, Sidney, NS
Shown born St. Johns, NFLD
She is going to Buffalo

There is also a card for daughter Helen travelling same day which shows she is with her mother
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Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 about James J Somers
Name:       James J Somers
Arrival Date:       Nov 1923
Port of Arrival:       St Albans, Vermont, United States
Age:       26
Birth Date:       abt 1897
Birth Place:       Newfoundland
Birth Country:       Canada
Gender:       Male
Race/Nationality:       Irish
Record Type:       Manifests

Says:

James J., age 26, laborer

Catherine, age 25

hfelen M., age 1

all show last address as Sidney, NS
Canada contact Stephen Butler, Sidney, NS
They are going to Buffalo contact: Mrs. Parsons
James born Placentia, NFLD
Catherine bor St. John's NFLD
Helen born SIdney, NS

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So that leaves Leo, James and Stephen Butler

I looked for them in border crossings and only found Stephen

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 about Stephen V Butler
Name:       Stephen V Butler
Arrival Date:       21 Mar 1924
Port of Arrival:       Niagara Falls, New York, United States
Arrival Contact:       Father Philip F
Departure Contact:       Wife Ruth
Age:       24
Birth Date:       abt 1900
Birth Place:       Whitbown, Newfoundland
Gender:       Male
Race/Nationality:       Irish
Record has photo?:       No
Record Type:       Cards

He is a painter
Canada contact - wife Ruth in Sidney
Going to Father Philip F. , Buffalo
Shows he was born Whitborne, NFLD


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Here is Philip arriving in Nova Scotia 1907

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Philip Butler
Name:       Philip Butler
Gender:       Male
Age:       40
Estimated Birth Year:       abt 1867
Date of Arrival:       27 Mar 1907
Vessel:       Bruce
Search Ship Database:       View the 'Bruce' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival:       Louisburg, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure:       Placentia, Newfoundland
Roll:       T-520

He was a labourer, travelling second class

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AND Ellen and kids


Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Mrs E Butler
Name:       Mrs E Butler
Gender:       Female
Age:       39
Estimated Birth Year:       abt 1868
Date of Arrival:       11 May 1907
Vessel:       Virginia Lake
Search Ship Database:       View the 'Virginia Lake' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival:       North Sydney, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure:       St Johns, Newfoundland
Roll:       T-520

Travelling steerage
BUTLER
Mrs. E., age 39
James, age 13
John, age 11
Stephen, age 7,
Kate, age 8,
Madaline, age 4,
all are able to read and write except for Madaline

going to husband and father who is a cement mixer
all born Newfoundland
all going to Sidney, NS

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I think this is all I can find

Carolyn L