Posted By:Carolyn La Porte
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Subject:Re: Charles J Thompson, Vancouver 1906 - 1961
Post Date:May 14, 2012 at 00:21:34
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Hi Peter,

Charles Joseph Thompson
British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986
birth:       13 Sep 1878       
death:       14 Apr 1961       
parents:       Joseph Atherden Thompson,​ Sophia
spouse:       Florence Elizabeth Hartley
death date:       14 Apr 1961
death place:       Vancouver B C, British Columbia, Canada
name:       Charles Joseph Thompson
gender:       Male
age:       82y
birth date:       13 Sep 1878
birthplace:       London, England
marital status:       Widower
spouse:       Florence Elizabeth Hartley
father:       Joseph Atherden Thompson
mother:       Sophia
digital folder number:       4437682
british columbia archives film number:       B13251
registration number:       61 09 004806


** THE above death record certainly seems to lean towards your being correct as the Atherden name is shown here also.

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Ernest Atherden Thompson
Name:       Ernest Atherden Thompson
Date of Registration:       Oct-Nov-Dec 1860
Registration district:       Camberwell
Inferred County:       London
Volume:       1d

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Joseph Atherden Thompson
Name:       Joseph Atherden Thompson
Date of Registration:       Apr-May-Jun 1853
Registration district:       Camberwell
Inferred County:       Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume:       1d

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So these are the births for your Ernest Atherton Thompson and for Charles father Joseph Atherden Thompson

So it seems what you need to know if if Ernest and Joseph were brothers which would make Charles and Douglas cousins.

So I went to 1861 census as both should be there - Ernest about a year old or less and Joseph about 7 or 8 and here they are.

1861 CAMBERWELL ST. GILES, LAMBETH, EMAUNUEL, SURREY, ENGLAND
19 CAMBERWELL GARDENS
THOMPSON
Joseph, age 33, builder and contractor, born Camberwell

Sarah A., age 30, wife, born Kensington

Joseph A., age 7, son, scholar, born Camberwell

Sarah E. A., age 6, daughter, scholar, born Camberwell

Emilia A., age 1, daughter, scholar, born Camberwell

Ernest A., age 3 months,son, born Camberwll

INISCO
Eliza J., age 22, general servant born Camberwell

SIERENS
Lucinda H., age 19, servant, nurse maid, born Newington, Surrey

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1871 ST. GEORGE, CAMBERWELL, SURREY, ENGLAND
124 HIGH ROAD
THOMPSON
Joseph, age 43, builder, born Camberwell

Sophia, age 31, wife, born Gibraltar, Spain

Joseph A., age 17, son, clerk, born Camberwell

Sarah E.A., age 16, daughter,scholar, born Camberwell

Ernest A., age 10, son, scholar, born Camberwell

Sophia L., age 7, daughter, scholar, born Camberwell

Rowland, age 5, son, scholar, born Camberwell

Allen E., age 2, son, born Camberwell

Charles H., age 4 months, son, born Camberwell

REES
Lucy, age 23, visitor, born Hong Kong, China

ROBERTS
Mary M., age 27, servant, nurse, born Chelsea, Middlesex

ADAMS
Sarah E., age 25, servant, house servant, born Nottley, Essex

BAKER
Jane E., age 19, servant, nurse maid, born Camberwell

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1881 ST. GEORGE, CAMBERWELL, ENGLAND
124 CAMBERWELL ROAD
THOMPSON
Joseph, age 53, retired builder, born Camberwell

Mary, age 35, wife, born Camberwell

Lucy, age 17, daughter, born Camberwell

Rowland, age 15, son, born Camberwell

Allan, age 12, son, scholar, born Camberwell

Charles, age 10, son, scholar, born Camberwell

Stewart, age 1, son, born Camberwell

Perceval, age son age 4 months, born Camberwell

PITMAN
Louisa, age 21, servant, nurse, born Newington, Surrey

** so it seems that first wife Sarah must have died between 1861 and 1871 when he has wife Sophia and then Sophia must have died before 1881 when he has a 3rd wife Mary

1881 ST. JOHN, PRESTON, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND
31 WINCKLEY SQUARE
TIGBY

James A., age 31, physician & surgeon, born Preston , Lancashire

Sarah Elizabeth, age 26, wife, born London, Surrey

Lilian, age 4, daughter, born Preston

Mable, age 2, daughter, born Preston

Arthur, age under 1 month, born Preston

THOMPSON
Ernest A., age 20, brother-in-law, medical student, born London, Surrey

WESTALL
Margaret, age 50, servant, widow, monthly nurse, born Freckelton, Lancashire

STONE
Alina, age 25, servant, domestic, born Weston Lisper, Somersetshire

STEPHENS
Kate, age 23, servant, domestic, born Fetinog, North Wales

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I can find more for you if you wish but this does seem to prove that Charles and Douglas were cousins.

Carolyn L
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Sarah Atherden Thompson
Name:       Sarah Atherden Thompson
Date of Registration:       Apr-May-Jun 1862
Registration district:       Camberwell
Inferred County:       London
Volume:       1d

*** seems right as she has Atherden name


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Sophia Thompson
Name:       Sophia Thompson
Estimated Birth Year:       abt 1840
Date of Registration:       Jul-Aug-Sep 1872
Age at Death:       32
Registration district:       Camberwell
Inferred County:       London
Volume:       1d

** she is the only Sarah Thompson in right place and right age

I looked for his marriages


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Joseph Thompson
Name:       Joseph Thompson
Date of Registration:       Jul-Aug-Sep 1848
Registration district:       Camberwell
Inferred County:       London
Volume Number:       4


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Sarah Atherdon Carly
Name:       Sarah Atherdon Carly
Date of Registration:       Jul-Aug-Sep 1848
Registration district:       Camberwell
Inferred County:       London
Volume Number:       4

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I did not find his marriages to Sophia and Mary - at least not for sure - there is a marriage of a Joseph Thompson with a possible wife of Mary Jacob in Dover Kent 1877 which would fit for ages of the younger children from 1881 census.
ALSO I just found a Percival Thompson age 10, John S. Thompson age 11, and Arthur D. Thompson age 12 living in Kent with grandfather Thomas Jacob and with their mother Mary Thompson, age 46,. The boys all shown born Camberwell - Mary is s town as married
Only problem is the 1881 census did not have an Arthur D. with the family.

I am assuming that if this is right people then John S. would be Stewart

There is an Arthur Douglas Thompson birth registered 1878 Camberwell
I did not find him in 1881 census so I suspect he was missed somehow.


I found Joseph, living in London in 1891 - I wonder if he and Mary were separated or perhaps she just was visiting with her father and took children with her

1891 BRIXTON, LAMBETH, ST. MICHAEL, LONDON
THOMPSON
Joseph, age 64, living on own means, born Camberwell

Charles H., age 20, son, clerk, born Camberwell

BOLTON
Fanny, age 42, general servant, born Dessington, Suffolk

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1891 KIRKHAM,FYLDE, ST. MICHAEL, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND
101 PRESTON ST.
THOMPSON
Ernest A., age 30, physician & surgeon, born Camberwell

Bertha, age 28, wife, born Clayton Le Moors, lancashire

Douglas E.A., age 1, son, born Kirkham

ECCLES
Lilian, age 18, living on her own means, born Clayton Le Moors

HUGHES
Sarah, age 22, domestic servant, born Liverpool

** so I assume Bertha's maiden name was Eccles