Posted By:Carolyn L
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Subject:Re: Ellen Browning and Thomas Amies. Robt Browning poet.
Post Date:December 03, 2009 at 12:47:56
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Forum:Browning Family Genealogy Forum
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Marie,

I looked in the census records for an Ellen Browning born between 1875 and 1879 - just to allow for possible error in birth year and I only found one with a mother named Sarah.

1881 ST JOHNS, BEDMINSTER,BRISTOL, SOMERSET, ENGLAND
ADDRESS - 6 EATON STREET
BROWNING
William, age 26, corn porter, born Boroughbridge, Somerset

Sarah, age 26, born Taunton, Somerset

Ellen, age 4, born Taunton, Somerset

Alice, age 6 months, born Bristol

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I then looked for her birth

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:       Ellen Browning
Year of Registration:       1876
Quarter of Registration:       Oct-Nov-Dec
District:       Taunton (1837-1974)
County:       Devon, Somerset
Volume:       5c

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1891 HOLY TRINITY, CLIFTON, BRISTOL, GLOUCESTERSHIRE, ENGLAND
BROWNING
Ellen, age 14, servant, domestic, born Taunton, Somerset

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1891 ST JOHNS , BEDMINSTER, BRISTOL, ENGLAND
ADDRESS - 21 KENT STREET
BROWNING
William, age 36, general labour, born Boroughbridge, Somerset

Sarah, wife, age 36, born Taunton, Somerset

Alice, daughter, age 10, born Bedminster, Bristol

Edith S., daughter, age 9, born Bedminster, Bristol

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O always find English records a bit confusing as counties seem to change from one census to another while the town is the same.

1901 ASHTON GATE ST. FRANCIS, BRISTOL, GLOUCESTERSHIRE, ENGLAND
ADDRESS - 37 LOWER RUBY STREET
BROWNING
William, age 46, seed warehouseman, born Boroughbridge, Somerset

Sarah, age 46,born Taunton, Somerset

Ellen, daughter, age 24, cigar maker, tobacco factory, worker, born Taunton, Somerset

Alice, daughter, age 20, cigar maker, tobacco factory, worker, born Bedminster, Bristol

Edith , daughter, age 19, stationers box maker ..............tobacco factory, born Bedminster, Bristol

Beatrice, daughter, age 9, born Bedminster, Bristol

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so Ellen was back with the family

I took a look at the 1911 census but could not see the actual image just lists of names, but checked to see if there were any William, Sarah, Alice, Edith and Beatrice Brownings shown.

I found
Alice Browning, age 30

Beatrice M. Browning, age 19

There are 2 Williams that are possibilities
William Browning , age 53
William Browning , age 54

Sarah Browning, age 55

I found on one Amies in 1911 Bristol, a young girl named Ruth, age 13, in an institution

I looked for Ellen and Thomas going to Australia - haven't found that passenger list yet but did find them returning to England

SHI - ORMONDE
STEAMSHIP LINE - ORIENT LINE
PORT OF ARRIVAL - LONDON - FROM BRISBANE
DATE OF ARRIVAL - NOV. 27, 1920

AMIES

Thomas Reginald,, Mercer, age 37

Ellen, housewife, age 43

Reginald Neville, age 11

Eileen Mabel, age 9

Leslie Roy, age 8

Byril Browning, age 5

Port of embarkation for this family - Sydney
These passengers labeled for Plymouth
They are all shown as residence _ Australia
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Thomas Reginald Amies is listed on the Australian Electoral Rolls
1933 - Kangaroo Valley, Eden Monaro, NSW

1937 - Waitara, Parramatta, NSW

1943 - Pennant Hills, Parramatta, NSW

1949 - Gosford, Robertson, NSW

1954 - Gosford, Robertson, NSW

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I found a christening record for Thomas Reginald Amies

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name:       Thomas Reginald Amies
Gender:       Male
Birth Date:       abt 1883
Christening Date:       13 Feb 1883
Christening Place:       Mayfield, Staffordshire, England
Father's Name:       Thomas Andrew Arthur Amies
Mother's Name:       Florence Amy

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:       Thomas Reginald Amies
Year of Registration:       1883
Quarter of Registration:       Jan-Feb-Mar
District:       Ashbourne
County:       Derbyshire, Staffordshire
Volume:       7b

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1891 CLIFTON AND COMPTON, DERBYSHIRE, ENGLAND
ADDRESS - 65 CLIFTON ROAD
AMIES

Thomas A., age 33, manager at dairy utensil, born Peterborough, Northampton

Florence A., wife, age 32, born Bury St. Ed., Suffolk

Florence E., daughter, age 9, scholar, born Ashbourne, Derby

Thomas R., son, age 8, scholar, born Ashbourne, Derby

Neville, son, age 6, born Mayfield, Stafford

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I can't find any of the Amies family in 1901 census, including Thomas Reginald who definitely should be there as we know he married in England 1903.

I wonder if his parents and siblings also went to Australia - perhaps before he did. ???

** as to a relationship to Robert Browning it may take some looking to find if that is so. I know my mother told me that our Brownings were related in some way to Robert also but after several years of researching our line I came to the conclusion that it was wishful thinking on her part. That is not to say your are not related - you certainly have a better chance as your family is actually from England where my line was in the U.S for several generations. I guess you would need to check Robert Browning's father's line and see if it matches anywhere with your Ellen's line.


Carolyn L.