Posted By:J Christiansen
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Subject:Re: looking for my grandad family
Post Date:February 14, 2013 at 17:21:40
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Cornelius Simmons, born abt 1897-1898, born in the British West Indies, father Anderson Simmons of Turk Islands, occupation seaman. Cornelius and his wife Phyllys Hendrickson married September 1937, at Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales. They had ten children. Cornelius possibly died in the 1970s (family oral history). There is a death of a Cornelius Simmons in Glamorganshire in 1968.

Possible marriage for Phyllis parents;
Marriages Dec 1915, Harold Hendrickson to Millicent E Richards, Newport M 11a       586.

That's a summary of your findings - hard to track him.

Did Cornelius die in Wales? Maybe you posted on a Wales message board, asking for help to find his death certificate. His death certificate should give his father and mother's name.

On Ancestry message board (Simmons board), where you posted, no complete answer was found to your question (who are the ancestors of your grandfather Cornelius Simmons). You did get the following information, however. Maybe it can help someone to help you, so I'll add it here:

"[1919] At age 21 (b. 1898) a Cornelius Simmons, seaman, Race Afr. Blk, born British West Indies, City Turks Island, arrived July 1919 at the port of St. Albans, Vermont, USA. Foreign [not a US citizen]. Name of nearest relative still residing in town from which he left: Father Anderson [Simmons], Turks Island.
"[1926] Cornelius next shows up arriving at the port of New York, N.Y. from Southampton, England, Ship Ordune, on 15 Sep 1926, Age 27, place of origin West Indies (colored), 5'6", first finger to 2nd joint left hand missing."

Here are more records of Cornelius's voyages:

This record notes that the first finger on his left hand was missing to the second joint.
Cornelius Simmons, age 27, born about 1898
Arrival Date: 15 Sep 1925
Place of Origin: West Indian (Coloured)
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York

The 1929 record below says he had put in 10 years service as a sailor.

Name: Cornelius Simmons
Arrival Date: 1 Mar 1929
Birth Year: abt 1900
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Race/Nationality: West Indian (Native American)
Port of Departure: Manchester, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: City Of Kimberley

Last voyage found for him arrives New York from Argentina in 1937.

In the other thread, you wrote, "1937 my grandad [Cornelius Simmons] move to cardiff and marred my nana and them had 10 kids."

DEATH RECORD listed on Ancestry.com
Name: Cornelius Simmons
Death Registration Month/Year: 2nd Quarter1968
Age at death (estimated): 71
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 126

You wrote, "my nana phyllis died in the 1980s in cardiff."

DEATH RECORD
Name: Phyllis Joan Simmons
Birth Date: 7 Jan 1919
Death Registration Month/Year: Aug 1984
Age at death (estimated): 65
Registration district: South Glamorgan
Inferred County: South Glamorgan
Volume: 28
Page: 1383

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Maybe you can find a birth record for Cornelius Simmons by writing (or calling) this address:
Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages:
Front Street, Turks & Caicos Islands
British West Indies
Tel: (+1)649-946-2800
Fax: (+1)649-946-2821

Latter Day Saints (LDS) church has some family history information from this area and you can rent microfilm from them (they will mail it to you).

LINK to Turks and Caicos Islands website:
http://www.iukgenweb.org/index.php/british-overseas-territories/turks-and-caicos-islands

from the website:
"The Cayman Islands and the Turks and Caicos Islands are two British dependencies in the northern part of the Caribbean. The Cayman Islands consist of three islands: Grand Cayman, Little Cayman, and Cayman Brac. The capital is George Town, on Grand Cayman. The Turks and Caicos Islands consist of some forty islands forming the southeastern end of the Bahamas archipelago. The capital is Cockburn Town, on Grand Turk Island. English is the official language of both territories."


In the 1930 US Census there's a Cornelius Simmonds (with a D) at St. Croix Island, Virgin Islands. Just a thought - that Simmonds could be an alternate spelling in some records.