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CAPTAIN JOHN JOURDAIN (1572-1619) & HILL FAMILY
Posted by: Michael Lutley Jordan (ID *****2436) Date: October 14, 2011 at 21:11:28
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YOU CAN'T TRUST INTERNET INFORMATION WITHOUT CHECKING IT!

Over the last few years, due to the good offices of such organisations as the Internet Library and Google Books (even if one does have to "cheat" snippet views!) a great many old (out of copyright) and rather inaccessible texts have been made available on-line. This greatly assists the historical and genealogical researcher, facilitating cross-checking and confirmation of secondary data sources.

With regard to Captain John Jourdain, two newly available online sources are of enormous utility:
1.) http://www.archive.org/stream/journalofjohnjou00jouriala/journalofjohnjou00jouriala_djvu.txt
WORKS ISSUED BY Hakluyt Society.
THE JOURNAL OF JOHN JOURDAIN, DESCRIBING HIS EXPERIENCES IN ARABIA, INDIA, AND THE MALAY ARCHIPELAGO
1608 1617. SECOND SERIES. No. XVI.
EDITED BY WILLIAM FOSTER, B.A.,
CAMBRIDGE: PRINTED FOR THE HAKLUYT SOCIETY. MDCCCCV.
INTRODUCTION
2.) http://www.archive.org/stream/reportandtransa12artgoog/reportandtransa12artgoog_djvu.txt
REPORT AND TRANSACTIONS OF THE DEVONSHIRE ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF SCIENCE, LITERATURE, AND ART. [KINGSBRIDGE, JULY, 1897.] VOL. XXIX. PLYMOUTH : W. BRENDON AND SON, PRINTERS. 1897.
TROUP, AN EXETER WORTHY AND HIS BIOGRAPHER p.350 ff [e-378]

In addition, differing abstracts of his will can be found at:
http://www.oakbaydesigns.com/Maine/1jurdain.htm
&
http://www.archive.org/stream/abstractsofwills00churrich#page/518/mode/2up

On Rootsweb there are over 50 registers for John Jordan of Lyme Regis (1564-1620) and dozens in the LDS FamilySearch database.
Almost without exception, these give his date of birth as 1564 and his date of death/ burial as 27 Sept 1620 in Lyme Regis. This information makes it difficult to identify him with Captain John Jourdain of the East India Company, who was killed by a Dutch marksman on 17 July 1619 at Patani, India and was buried there.
The truth is that the date given for his death/ burial is in fact the date of probate of his will.
Furthermore, Foster, in his introduction to his edition of the "Journal of John Jourdan", provides strong arguments for believing that he was born in 1572 or 1573. There is no register of his baptism in the parish records and it is at about this point that a chunk of the records have been lost.
There are, however, extant records for his sister Susan, in 1562, and his brother Silvester, in 1565. His father's will and other sources lead us to believe that he was the fourth son and sixth child.
His will (1618), probate and administration, together with EIC records and correspondence, inform us that his wife's name was Susan, his son John, his Sister Susan Viney (formerly Woodroffe), with children Robert, Hester and Jonas Viney (the last being his personal assistant or secretary in India) , his cousins John and Ignatius Jourdain, merchants of Exeter and that he had a nephew John (probably son of John) who also entered service in the EIC. He also mentions his cousin William Keredge of Lyme, also his colleague in the EIC. William Keredge (father or son) married John's niece Elizabeth Hill, daughter of his sister Judith.
Almost nothing is known of his son John, but since administration of his father's will was granted to Joane (Jonas?) Viney in 1622 (Susan Viney having died) and only to his mother Susan in 1628, by the conditions of the will we must assume that he was either out of the country or dead by this time. One has the impression that John's wife Susan was probably illiterate, the reason why he made his sister Susan his executrix, his son being still in his minority.

Please revise your databases accordingly.


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