More From John Young's Notes to me Jan 2010:
He said, "We have from over 60 years of research on the Casteels of East Kentucky. Of course RJ's book names all the children and their lines."
NO PROOF, BUT FAMILY LEGEND/LEGACY
No Proof really who John Harrison Casteel's father was by name, date of birth, date of death, and where he died.
Our line starts with John Casteel born circa 1758 who we suspect, by family legend, married a Cherokee Indian, no proof. No one I have ever talked to in the family has ever seen any actual hard evidence that John Casteel even existed, no birth, marriage or death records no property records simply put.......... nothing solid proof, but we are led to believe---------
JOHN HARRISON CASTEEL OF GREENBRIAR CO. VA
His son John Harrison Casteel, again the Harrison (part of the name) I was told was made up by Uncle Wilson Casteel to differentiate between John Sr and John Jr, was born in Greenbriar County, Virginia - now West Virginia in 1778. He married Ellander "Elon" Metcalf, daughter of Norris Metcalf and Mary Jane Claypool on 19th Jan, 1804 with a license issued in Madison County, Kentucky. Our area here in Laurel County was actually Madison County in 1804. This family never moved, but are shown in Jackson, Clay and Laurel Counties because of the division of the counties from 1806 to 1824 forming new counties. Son John moved to Kentucky in 1795 having helped cut the new wilderness road. During the War of 1812 he joined Co.C. 11th Regiment, Kentucky Mounted Volunteer Militia. He had a reputation of an Indian fighter and scout. He served under Governor Isaac Shelby the first Governor of Kentucky and with Colonel William Whitley. He was at the battle of the Thanes near Detroit and told his son James who later told Claybourn Casteel,that he actually shot and killed the Indian Chief Tecumseh, but Shelby didn't want the honor to go to a half breed so they made up the story you read in history books. He later served with General Andrew Jackson as a scout in the Seminole Indian War. He traveled a lot going from Detroit to Florida in his military duties.
RJ. Bruner Jr. author of "The Casteels of Southeast Kentucky and Points West", asks a very important question at the beginning of the book:
WHO ARE THE PARENTS OF JOHN H. CASTEEL?
John H. Casteel is the son of ??????
1. Was he the son of a John Casteel and a Cherokee Indian? When pressed for a name Uncle Wilson made up Nokalakee as a joke. Hubert Hodge son of Calista Casteel also made up a name - Dawn Walkenstick - all fabricated.
2. Was he the son of William Casteel who was killed along with his family except for one daughter Elizabeth age 10 who married a Dunlap. This took place in East Tennessee around April 22nd 1794. In theory John H. had been bonded to someone else some time before his family went west
3. Me-Poster's Note - (It was thought that this line of John Harrison Casteel was connected to du Chastel's line, but through the DNA testing at Family Tree DNA under the Castel Project, it is has been determine John Harrison Casteel's line is another Casteel lineage not related to du Chastel line of Casteels.) John Young agreed when he sent me this note "That is the conclusion I have come to. Guess we start from here and see where John comes from. Hopefully there is someone out there that has some additional, new, information."
Sadly, RJ did tell me again tonight that Uncle Wilson Casteel made up the story about the name of the Indian but family legacy did pass down that John Harrison Casteel - father of John Casteel was married to an Indian making John a half Indian. We just don't have any additional information past that. I have a copy of John Casteel's marriage certificate from 1803, Madison County, Kentucky and also have a permission slip John Casteel signed allowing his son James to marry in Clay County, Kentucky.
John R. Young
All of this is shown along with all the other lines in R.J.Bruner's Jr. book called the "The Casteels of Southeast Kentucky and Points West".
PS - (If you would like a copy of the book, R.J. Bruner's Jr.'s book "The Casteels of Southeast Kentucky and Points West" "Contact me directly" and I might be able to point you in the right direct to find a copy. I think I know someone who might have extra copies of it.)
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