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Travis Carter Bennett of Pittsylvania
Posted by: Dick Zieman (ID *****1423) Date: December 18, 2012 at 14:05:46
In Reply to: Re: DNA finally proves Travis Carter of Pittsylvania by Don Bennett of 22774

Travis Carter Bennett dna DFT Person In Focus ID No. 37811
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Father:
Richard (Gunsmith) Carter dna ca. 1745-- Stafford Co VA 1786-- Halifax Co VA
F: Presley Probably Carter dna ca. 1720-- Lancaster Co VA
M: Unknown Unknown
Married:
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Mother:
Frances Neale? Travis? Unknown
F:
M:
Married:
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Child(ren) of Richard (Gunsmith) Carter dna and Frances Neale? Travis? Unknown , married

1. Presley (Blacksmith?) Carter S.2. ca. 1767-- Halifax Co VA 1840-- Dandridge, Jefferson Co TN
2. Mary Frances Carter ca. 1769-- Halifax Co VA bef 1820-- Maury Co TN
3. Levin Carter ca. 1771-- Halifax Co VA
4. Travis NOT Carter ca. 1773-- Wythe Co VA Lawrence Co AL
5. Spencer (Pittsylvania) Carter ca. 1773-- Halifax Co VA aft 1856-- Halifax Co VA
6. Charles Ewell Carter 1775-10-02 Pittsylvania Co VA 1854-05-03 Grayson Co KY
7. Thompson (Pittsylvania) Carter ca. 1777-- Halifax Co VA
8. Travis Carter Bennett dna ca. 1778-- Pittsylvania Co VA
9. Elizabeth Carter ca. 1781-- Halifax Co VA
10. Thornton NOT Carter ca. 1783-- Halifax Co VA
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Spouse:
Jenny Going 1776-- VA
F:
M:
Married:
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Child(ren) of Travis Carter Bennett dna and Jenny Going , married 1798-05-29 Pittsylvania Co VA
See Carter DNA
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Biography and Notes: Travis Carter Bennett dna Buried:

Yes, there are gaping holes in the following documentation, but there are too many over-lapping details ... and ... there is the overwhelming DNA test.

Who was the Mother of Travis Carter?

Don Bennett has opened another Pandora's Box - there are nagging questions, but we can not argue with a 36 of 37 marker dna match. The only thing that makes sense is that Travis instant was the youngest of the orphaned sons of Richard, and had to be separately cared for. Even Thompson was going on sixteen in 1792. All said and done, according to Bennett researchers, after a 1798 marriage in Pittsylvania, the first child of Travis was born ca. 1806 North Carolina, while the other sons of Richard The Gunsmith Carter remained behind in Pittsylvania:

On 7 Apr 1805 Presley CARTER, Levin CARTER, Thompson CARTER and
Frederick MILLER [husband of Mary] sold to Spencer CARTER, 100 acres
of Richard CARTER's land.

This particular set of names is beyond all doubt for the Carters on the Upper Reaches of Doubles Creek - proven back to James Carter of Stafford, son of Capt. Thomas Carter Sr. - where Presley Carter, third son of James, is ... probably ... the father of Richard, as previously deduced - and where Capt. George Carter is Presley's well documented younger half-brother.

In other words, Richard the Gunsmith and Capt. George Carter were Nephew and Uncle - and they were living right next door to one another on the Halifax/Pittsylvania borders of 1769. Separately, from a Google on Colonial Virginia Apprenticeships:

"For boys seeking to become master craftsmen, the standard rule was
that no one could open a shop without serving at least seven years as
an apprentice and reaching the age of 21.

"In practice, many American boys were allowed to complete their
apprenticeships in four or five years.

"Typically, a boy started his apprenticeship at age fourteen".

Therefore ..... Travis was born in 1778, apprenticed out as a bricklayer in 1792 at the age of fourteen. This was for just two years - unitl he was sixteen in 1794, and then he married at the age of twenty in 1798. He quickly becomes involved in the Bennett of Pittsylvania transactions into North Carolina.

Footnote: Richard the Gunsmith deceased 1786, therefore his wife Frances survived until late 1791, where Travis is then declared an orphan in January 1792.

False! The widow Frances Carter remarried in 1795!
Travis is somehow disconnected from the others!
Don was the first to raise the question, who was the mother of Travis?
Yet, he is in the very same neighborhood with Stamps and Walters!

1. Richard and Frances Carter buy 400 acres from Joseph Terry
in 1767; he is on lower left of Grid 16.D., proven on Birch Creek.

"Also, some of the names I see associated with the Carters in Pittsylvania
I know came from Broad Run Baptist. Stamps is one of these. The new church
in Pittsylvania was located at the head of Birch Creek". Don Bennett

Too Many Details Overlap With the DNA

Posted by: Don Bennett (ID *****3520) Date: December 16, 2012 at 14:55:18
In Reply to: Thomas of Barford DNA by Dick Zieman of 22159
Dick,

I am not a Carter researcher so I am hoping that you can help me out. My interest is in the Bennett family of southeaster Pittsylvania County, Va who arrived there about 1769. In the late 1790s, a person named Travis Bennett starts showing up in the records. He is absolutely associated with these Bennetts, but he does not fit in anywhere. This week, a descendant received results from a 37 marker yDNA test. It is not a match with this Bennett line.

However, it is a perfect 37 marker match with descendants of Capt. Thomas Carter
Told Ya so, Told Ya so, Told Ya so ......

I have found the following record which names an orphan, Travis Carter, son of Richard. He looks to be the right age to be Travis Bennett. I am thinking maybe the Bennetts took in the orphan, Travis Carter. I should note that Carters do appear around the Bennetts on tax lists. I would be very interested in your thoughts. Do you know what became of the orphan Travis Carter?

Don Bennett

Even though the youngest, why was Travis the only son bound out?

On page 226, 1/2/1792 the Court ordered that the overseers [of the county poor] should bind out Travis Carter, orphan of Richard Carter, decd. The overseers in obedience to that order, have bound out Travis Carter as an apprentice to John Spencer of Pittsylvania Co. , VA until Oct 30, 1794. Where Travis of Richard the Gunsmith was born 1778 and had an older brother Spencer!

From the Bennett Website:
◦Alexander Lee, Thomas Bennett and John Bennett, Sr appear in order on the 1782 census list taken by John Dix in the District of Capt. John Wynn and Capt. John Walters

See below for the many Walters connections to our Capt. George Carter -
who removed to Montgomery County VA by 1781.

From our notes on Richard (Gunsmith) Carter and Capt. George Carter -
now proven by DNA to be Nephew and Uncle, as long suspected:

Note the difference in details between the two Richard Carters. [There were three or four Richards]. These items are not proof, but awfully compelling evidence for both this Richard and our Capt. George, presumed more than ever to be nephew and uncle. George is proven in the Overwharton Parish records with a birth in 1733, and from his proven children Richard was born 1745. They can not be father and son!

Not strict proof, but overwhelming perponderence of evidence!

1. Richard and Frances Carter buy 400 acres from Joseph Terry in 1767; he is on lower left of
Grid 16.D., proven on Birch Creek.
2. However, the 400 acres (exact amount in Halifax, corner to Pittsylvania) of Wm. Walters adjacent
to George next were transferred to said Joseph Terry 10 May 1764.
3. "A Deed from Richard Carter to the Vestry of Antrim Parish was by the said Richard acknowledged to be
his act and deed, and the same is Ordered to be recorded 27 Nov 1767 Pittsylvania". (1 acre, see item 8.)
4. The 354 Acre Patent to George Carter on 20 Jul 1768 is on the middle left edge of Grid 16.C. Consistent
with comments on land of Richard, both of these Grids are divided by the Halifax/Pittsylvania line running
NE on Magnetic North. The majority of this Patent is in Pittsylvania (Va. Pat. Bk 37, pp. 270,271)
but is surrounded by Walters, Viletto and Stamps * in Halifax, on the waters of Doubles Creek.
5. The 370 Acres of (Dr.) Timothy Stamps (from Fauquier) is shown in lower left hand corner of Grid 16.C.,
transferred to Dodson in 1772; he has a second parcel directly north of George in Pittsylvania.

Does the proximity to Walters and Stamps, and in the same instance to this Richard Carter, alone prove it
was our George who was Captain of the Pittsylvania Militia in 1778?

6. 21 Jul 1773, Richard and Frances Carter sold 100 acres to George Carter. Witnesses:
Thomas Walters *, I.N. Walters, Robert Walters. Bk 3, p.336.
7. "At a court held Sept 25, 1778, Walters was appointed first lieutenant, John Hall second
lieutenant and John Stamps ensign in Captain George Carter's company of County Militia".
8. Database of Mildred Fournier: . In 1787, Richard CARTER, gunsmith is shown as the owner of 299
acres". (Bought 400, sold 100 to George, 1 acre to Vestry / burying ground). "The inventory of his
personal estate was taken on 17 Jul 1787 by L. RAGLAND, John MOORE and Caleb DODSON".

Post Mortum on Travis Carter: as previously deduced from all the notes below, there were at least TWO Travis Carters - the dates are similar, but details did not previously lock in:

a) December, 1775 (Order Book 7:73, Pittsylvania Co. VA) that says, "Ordered by the overseers of the poor do bind out Thomas Handy and Travis Carter, orphans of William Handy and Richard Carter according to law." This can NOT be Travis of Wythe, born ca. 1783.

Are we now talking about THREE Travis Carters of Colonial Virginia?

b) on page 226, 1/2/1792 the Court ordered that the overseers [of the county poor] should bind out Travis Carter, orphan of Richard Carter, decd. The overseers in obedience to that order, have bound out Travis Carter as an apprentice to John Spencer of Pittsylvania Co. , VA until Oct 30, 1794. Where Travis of Richard the Gunsmith was born 1778 and had an older brother Spencer!

Contact: Shirley Ann Bennett Barham [shirsh.barham AT conwaycorp.net] Y-DNA Kit #259858 Group R1b - 02

0Travis Bennett b ca 1778 d unknown* ..... this was the Bennett date of birth! To match.
+ Jenney Going b ca 1776 VA; m 29 May 1798 Pittsylvania Co VA

1 Hazel George Bennett b ca 1806 NC d bef 1860 GA
+ Margarett Weir b ca 1812

etc.


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