Re: William Carter - White Co TN 1780-1845
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Re: William Carter Halifax Co NC ca. 1760
Gerry Beaver 12/13/05
Since your asked, Thank You .........
Especially because of the very unusual names of the daughters, and the names of the sons in general, I have every reason to believe our William 1780 is from the Capt. Thomas of Barford.Just some key excerpts from our notes:
(Special Note: our William is not the William R. Carter who went on to Mississippi ..... and ..... our William F. Carter is not the son of Charles Carter Jr.)
A. We have all the children and their exact dates of birth handed down to us from a list "of the children of my great grandfather Carter" - who was a descendent of William F. Carter, who is also my wife's proven great grandfather.William F. was a) appointed Sheriff of White County during Reconstruction, b) appointed first County Superintendent of Schools, c) appointed postmaster of Sparta for several years.Not putting on "aires", just don't think this happens to a son of a typical tobacco farmer?
Child(ren) of William Carter and Ruth Bean , married 1801-07-18 Grainger Co TN
1. Jasper Carter0000-06-22 TN
2. Lathamy (Lathea-Alethea) Carter1802-03-29 TN
3. Robert Carter1805-09-26 TN
4. Betsy Anne Carter1807-02-24 TN
5. Martha Carter1808-10-10 TN
6. Casama Carter1810-04-06 TN
7. Williahah (Wilhemina) Carter1813-03-29 TN
8. Mary Carter1819-01-01 TN
9. William F. Carter1819-03-13 KY or TN1890-03-28 Sparta, White Co TN
10. Susanne Carter1820-06-24 TN
11. Edward (Edmund) Carter1824-06-24 TN
12. Charlotte Carter1825-10-27 TN
13. Rev. James Henry Carter1826-01-27 White Co TN1900-04-22 Cumberland Co KY
14. Wayman Carter1828-04-20 White Co TN
15. Sarah Carter1829-02-01 White Co TN
16. Lucy Francis Carter1832-05-06 White Co TN
B.The place of birth of our William as VA? is from the census listings for his son, William F., showing both parents from Virginia.And then, Sue Beck Carter found Ruth in her direct family up in Wayne County, Kentucky.From this combination, the only marriage found in published materials in early Kentucky, North Carolina, Tennessee or Virginia of any Mr. Carter, McCarter or MacCarter to any Ruth was the 1801 marriage in Grainger County, Tennessee between William Carter and Ruth Bean (think Bean Station, whether or not Ruth herself was there).
C.As to the evidence at hand, there is a William Carter in both the 1830 and 1840 US Census, TN, White County,of the proper age and with the proper number of children to fit the hand-written list from the Sue Beck Carter book.She also correctly notes that our William does not appear in the 1850 census but Ruth appears with Wayman and Lucy in Wayne County, Kentucky - and Ruth herself declares her age at 70 (born 1780) and born in Tennessee.This information is repeated in the 1860 census, same place.Although census data is never perfect, this can not be a Ruth from New Hampshire as some on RootsWeb contend.(See Ruth's Bio for proof of this).We also use 1780 for the birth of William since he appears in the same age bracket in both census.
From the Sue Carter book, we specifically find that the sister-in-law of researcher Edwin H. Morse had prepared a two page, hand-written list of "The children of my great grandfather Carter" which includes No. 7 William F. - Mar. 13, 1816 and No. 12 James - Jan. 27, 1826 in the total of 16 children listed.We have copy thereof in hand.Common sense says Uncle Willie was the source of the information found on the list - with the exact dates of birth and all.
D.To document our William, we go back to the 1810 US census and the only William Carter in Tennessee is over in Rutherford County, Nashville (according to Ancestry), image 6, and not in Grainger or White as we might expect.(We now know that most of the 1810 Tennessee census was lost - what an irony to have Rutherford County survive)!!!Thing is, the family listed fits the profile we are looking for - 2 boys under ten, 2 girls under ten and the adults are between 26 and 40.The William Carter listed in Wayne County, Kentucky, by contrast, has older children.
Is it more than coincidence that George Bean lost his lawsuit in 1801 and moved from Grainger to Rutherford County - and at the same instance - have our 1801 Grainger County newlyweds arrive in Rutherford County?See Bio of George for full details.[George Bean as proposed father to our Ruth]
Then thanks to White County on-line, and not Ancestry.com, we find the pesky William R. Carter in the 1820 White County census (and he is found next door to Peter, as in the 1812 tax list [have every reason to believe these are descendents of Peter Carter in Amherst - of Peter of Fauquier]).The profile for the family of this William R. Carter does not begin to match the profile we are looking for.However, in the revised index of 2004, Ancestry.com now has a William Carter with the correct family profile listed in Smith County; this is very possibly our William based on the evolution of the middle Tennessee counties from west to east.In other words, our William may have been in that part of Rutherford County in 1810 that became Smith.
[evolution of Middle Tennessee from West to East omitted]
We find a William Carter in the 1830 White County census, aged 50-60, with 5 sons and 4 daughters (plus two female adults) of the proper ages to fit the family profile we are looking for.There are minor differences in the ages between the census and the hand-written list, but 1) the list does have proven date errors and 2) as we all know by now, census data, especially dates, is always suspect.The important conclusion, though, is that William R. left - and our plain Will arrived - the family profiles are just too different to conclude otherwise.
Remember that on two occasions, the Rev. * James * Henry * Carter declares he was born in White County - and that his date of birth from the list is 27 Jan 1826.(Emphasis on the names found all the way back in Lancaster County, Virginia).
Our William is found from the indexing in progress for the years 1835-1841 on the White County Court records:"Bounds and hands assigned to Thomas Little Overseer to wit:William Carter, Thomas Ellet, Garman Manning and John Flatt," - there are separate entries for the William F. Carter of Charles.The remaining question becomes, whereabout in White County was Thomas Little assigned?Separately, Peter Carter Senior and Junior are still in town!
Page 84: "Ordered by Court that James Hudgins, Samuel V. Carrick, John Rose, Anthony Dibrell, Joseph Herd, Joseph Hunter and Thomas Little freeholders be appointed a Jury of review to examine lay off and mark a road of the first Class the nearest and best way from the West end of the Bridge at Sparta passing through the land of William Bruster, Nicholas Oldham and Jacob A. Lane crossing town Creek at or near the mouth and intersecting the McMinnville Road at the forks where the road leading by the Harriet Iron Works turns off and report thereof to the next term of this Court -"
In brief, this road is going south as it intersects the McMinnville Road and Samuel Carrick (merchant) and the Dibrell (Clerks of the Court) are proved in the immediate area of our Carter in the later census.The ultimate point to make is that the Mt. Gilead cemetery sits on the corner southwest of Sparta that is marked Dibrell on today's maps.This proves our William in White County at least as early as ca. 1835.And, although there are always minor discrepencies in dates and places of birth, it appears the family arrived as early as 1826 with the birth of James Henry.Finally, there was only one William Carter in the 1830 and 1840 White County census.
From the 1840White County census there is a William Carter aged (again) at 50-60, with 6 sons and 6 daughters to fit our family profile.Since the age bracket is repeated, this implies his birth in 1780 itself.The spouse of the William Carter now seen in Grainger County is only age 40-50 (born 1790, not 1780), and there are not enough children to fit.As previously noted, our William is never seen again, but Ruth is found in Wayne County in 1850.
And ..... per the latest discovery in the 1840 census, there is "Lathea" only four households away from our William.The only problem is, she is Lathea Carter with three small children, and no older male in the household; she is not found anywhere in the 1850 census.
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Re: William Carter - White Co TN 1780-1845
Gerry Beaver 12/14/05