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I decided to try to look for your Per Otto in the 1890 Swedish Census, in hopes of finding Karl Hjalmar with him but he wasn't there. (I couldn't find any Per Otto at all born 1881 in Vreta Kloster, as Emibas said. This one was born in 1880. Maybe a year was misread due to scribbly writing in one or more of the transcribed records.) Karlsson, Karl August 1849 F Persd:r, Karolina 1843 M (Barn), Johan August 1876 Ch (Barn), Per Otto 1880 Ch (Barn), Frida Olivia 1886 Ch ---------- Johansd:r, Brita Stina 1817 Post 848477 Karlsson, Karl August Torpare = tenant farmer b. 1849 i Lönsås (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) Man, married (father) Voxholm, torp Ljung (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) Place of birth (original source): Lönsås, Ög. Post 848478 Persd:r (Persdotter), Karolina b. 1843 i Tjällmo (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) h.= wife. Woman, married (mother) Voxholm, torp Ljung (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) Place of birth (original source): Tjellmo, Ög. Post 848480 Johan August b. 1876 i Ljung (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) s. Boy (child) Voxholm, torp Ljung (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) Place of birth (original source): Ljungs Post 848481 Per Otto b. 1880 i Vreta Kloster (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) s. Boy (child) Voxholm, torp Ljung (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) Place of birth (original source): Vr. Kloster, Ög. Post 848479 Frida Olivia b. 1886 i Ljung (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) d. Girl (child) Voxholm, torp Ljung (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) Place of birth (original source): Ljungs ----------------------------------------------------- Post 848482 Johansd:r, Brita Stina Inhhj. b. 1817 i Ljung (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) Widow Voxholm, torp Ljung (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) Place of birth (original source): Ljungs I think your Karl Hjalmar must have moved out to work somewhere or maybe he had already emigrated. At any rate, it looked as if the oldest remaining child in the above family had been born in Ljung parish, so I looked for your Karl Hjalmar in the birth records for 1873. I found a good possibility for you, born on 1 May 1873. I looked in handwritten Swedish parish records on the fee-based Genline site. http://www.genline.com This is the specific page on Genline. You can see it if you join Genline. GID # (Genline Identification Number) 100005.57.23600 Birth # 25 in Ljung parish in 1873: 1 May mark in column for male Carl Hjalmar first child (for the mother) He was a twin with Hulda Elisabeth (who had a mark in column for female) parents: Carl August Carlsson, worker in Voxholm (where he lived in that parish) and Carolina Persdotter mark in column for legitimate male (Carl Hjalmar) and female (Hulda Elisabeth) mark in column for married The father's age was 23? (It was crossed out since the priest wasn't supposed to list the father's age) and the mother's age was 30 This seems to be the right Carl Hjalmar since the parents match those found for Per Otto. More investigation into the Swedish parish records will confirm or correct that thought. This might be Karl Hjalmar in 1890. He was working as a farmhand. Andersson, Anders Alfred 1841 F Andersdotter, Karolina 1841 M (Barn), Karl Erhard 1874 Ch ---------- Andersson, Karl August 1871 ---------- Karlsson, Karl Hjalmar 1873 ---------- Danell, Amanda Karolina 1873 Post 851553 Karlsson, Karl Hjalmar Dräng = farmhand. b. 1873 i Ljung (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) Man, single Stora Berga Backgården Klockrike (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) Place of birth (original source): Ljung Östergötl l. This might be his twin. She was working as a maid. Jonsson, Gustaf Fredrik 1850 F Adolfsfdotter, Christina Charlotta 1855 M (Barn), Anna Christina 1875 Ch (Barn), Gerda Charlotta 1877 Ch ---------- Carlsson, Lars Johan 1859 ---------- Carlsson, Carl Johan 1860 ---------- Palmqvist, Carl Adolf 1875 ---------- Carlsson, Hulda Elisabeth 1873 ---------- Carlsdotter, Carolina 1863 Post 899391 Carlsson, Hulda Elisabeth Piga = maid. b. 1873 i Ljung (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) Woman, single Wässentorp. Vist (Östergötlands län, Östergötland) Place of birth (original source): Ljung, Österg:s l. I can't do all your research but I did try to find this family in the husförhörslängd (HFL), which is often translated as clerical survey record or household examination record. The HFL was a Swedish parish record similar in format to a census but updated continually and not just every ten years. The HFL is also more detailed than a census. It is the main reason Swedish genealogy is so easy compared to that in other countries, including the U.S. This handwritten record is also on Genline. GID # 334.28.25700 This is the HFL for Ljung parish from 1881-1885. Tenant farmer Karl August Karlsson, born 10 May 1849 in Lönsås, married 1??? November 1872 wife Karolina Persdotter, born 22 April 1843 in Tjellmo (Tjällmo) her daughter Axelina Maria, born 30? June 1869 in Ljung son of both Karl Hjalmar, born 1 May 1873 in Ljung (twin) daughter of both Hulda Elisabeth, born 1 May 1873 in Ljung (twin) son Frans Viktor, born 3 March 1875 in Ljung son Johan August, born 26 October 1876 in Ljung son Per Otto, born 20 September 1881 in an illegible place ((Wretakl___?) but we found his birth in Ljung parish so it must be something in that parish. This does seem to be your Karl Hjalmar. What do you think? (You should do more research in the parish records, using Genline or microfilm ordered from a Family History Center) and also ask for help on the Sweden forum.) Judy Notify Administrator about this message?
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