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Re: First Churchills
Posted by: dw.churchill Date: November 25, 2001 at 12:39:17
In Reply to: Re: First Churchills by Bill Ryan of 1168

Hi again Bill: Thanks much for E-mail. That Brown and alternate versions are plastered all over internet. But,according to many so called serious researchers (experts) it's all BOGUS. A book written and supposedly authorized by modern day Winston, states the original "Winston" concocted an "ancestry" which included the yarn of William the Conqueror and 1066 migration from France for the Churchills. I don't have my files in front of me, but, I believe Roger,from whom John the First Duke of Marlborough descended,is where author A.L. Rowse asserts, begins the dividing line between fact and fiction. Edith Bond is one of three ladies placed in the charts. Believe, to this date, there are no legitimate, established records or sources, linking the New England Churchills to Britain.
I have heard however, that some of the Churchills in the Atlantic provinces who claim no known relationship to Josiah or John of New England, arrived in the provinces direct from England. I was hoping some of those Churchills left records indicating British ancestry.
But, thanks for your reply. I'm not sure my files have that entry of 'Rockbear, Devon". Both Devon and Dorset are kicked around as the probable birth places for Josiah.
For the record, I saw where somebody from the provinces, had claimed blood lines to Jennie Jerome, Winston's mother.
I have traced "Jennie" on the computer and did link her to Margaret Churchill (abt 21 Jun 1574), daughter of Roger Churchill and Jane Peverell. She married Bartholomew Olde (or Old) and several generations later Jennie is born to Leonard Walter Jerome and Clarissa Hall.
That same Roger and Jane are stated to have given birth to Roger and two other sons, one, John - who is the supposed progenitor of the New England Churchills.
John married Eleanor (Elinor) Meller who had many children including New England's Josiah and John. And, there are a few other versions, including the one you quoted re. Elizabeth Bond. But, like I said, the "experts" claim all above has been investigated, found always without foundation (or records)and hence, discarded.
Square one is despite rather strong efforts over 100 years to establish connections for the New England Churchills, it has never been accomplished.
Again, for the record, some sources insist there is great confusion over the Roger/Jane Peverell marriage. Tis said there were two Jane Peverells in southern England about the same time, and that researches often get their "Janes" mixed up.
There is great confusion, all around, at this stage because too many people perpetuate "various versions" by registering them on the internet. Lots of folks accept all as fact and pass them on.
That's why it's nice to have the bulletin boards so we can at least exchange our thoughts and gain insight.
Anyway, thanks again. Regards, dwc.


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