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Re: John Harold Bates
Posted by: Carolyn La Porte (ID *****6155) Date: March 25, 2012 at 14:29:38
In Reply to: Re: John Harold Bates by Don of 1963

Hi Don,

Well, this new info you gave me helped again. I found some more for you and what I found does make it look likely that the John from MA is the right one.

Here is the marriage of George S. Sangdahl and ALice Bonner

Cuyahoga County, Ohio, Marriage Records and Indexes, 1810-1973 about Alice Bonner
Name:       Alice Bonner
Marriage Date:       10 Nov 1930
Form Type:       Marriage
Age:       30
Gender:       Female
Birth Year:       abt 1900
Father's Name:       John Bonner
Mother's Name:       Eddie Sluder
Spouse's Name:       George S Sangdahl
Spouse's Age:       41
Spouse's Birth Year:       abt 1889
Spouse Father's Name:       John Bonner
Spouse Mother's Name:       Elizabeth Saveland

*** The Record says:
George S. Sangdahl
age 41
born Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Engineer
Number of times previously married - once
Div. 11-1-30 C.P. Ct.
Father - Lauritz
Mother - Elizabeth Saveland

Alice Bonner
age 30
Born Wichita Falls, Texas
Number of times previously married - once
Married name - Bates
Div. 9-25-30 C.P. Ct.
Father John Bonner
Mother Eddie Sluder

I certify that on the 10th day of November 1930, Mr. George S. Sangdahl and Alice Bonner were by me legally joined in marriage. Rev. A.J. Wright

** I suspect that the Div. means divorced - I don't know what the C.P. Ct. means

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This may be George and Nina in 1920 although his place of birth is shown as IL, not WI

1920 BROOKLYN ASSEMBLY DISTRICT 21, KINGS, NY
SANGDAHL
George S., age 20, civil engineer, iron co., born IL both parents born Norway

Nana F., age 19, wife, born Alabama, father born TN mother born IN

** In the image it is hard to tell if his age is 20 or 30, but 30 makes more sense as he is an engineer which would be unlikely at age 20. Also Nana does look like that spelling in the image and initial F. is wrong, but then census records are often wrong. As he is an engineer which is his occupation in 1930 marriage I still think it likely this is he and Nina.

Here they are in 1930 census and this shows they would have been in NY as one son born there. The Div. dates make sense also as he married Alice Nov. 10th and would have been divorced on Nov. 1st - not much time wasted eh.

1930 LAKEWOOD, CUYAHOGA, OH
SANGDAHL
George S., age 39, District sale mngr. Bridge & Iron Co., born Wi both parents born Norway, married at age 21

Nina M., age 36, wife, born Alabama, both parents born US married at age 18

Stanley G., age 9, son, born NY father born WI mother born AL

Robert, age 7, son, born Canada French (AM. Citz.) father born WI mother born AL

JACKSON
Elizabeth, age 21, servant, private family, negro, born VA both parents born VA

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So another connection for Nina to Quebec with one son born there

There is a WW1 draft card for George showing he was born WI and was living in Manhattan, NY at the time, single.


As George and Nina are in Cayahoga Co. OH in 1930 and he is shown divorced in 1930 the divorce would have been there - not sure about Alice and John - as she is shown divorced in Sept. 1930 BUT she is in OH so was she divorced there or in MA ??

I suspect OH and I suspect that John must have been there at some point to meet Nina and marry her? That is, assuming they married in OH - I could be wrong there.

Here is Alice Sangdahl's death

Vermont Death Records, 1909-2008 about Alice Bonner Sangdahl
Name:       Alice Bonner Sangdahl
[Alice Bonner Bonner]
Gender:       Female
Birth Date:       22 Jul 1885
Birth Location:       Ark, Arkansas
Death Date:       11 Apr 1985
Deathplace:       Emergency room
Death Location:       Windsor, Windsor
Cause of Death:       Ulcerative Hiatis Hernia
Veteran:       Non applicable
Residence:       Woodstock, VT
Mother's Maiden Name:       Bonner
Mother's Name:       Irene
Father's Name:       John Bonner
Date Filed:       12 Apr 1985
Vital Event Type:       Certificate of Death

She is listed as a housewife and her age is shown as 85 so if her birth year was correct she would be 100 so something wrong there. The informant in Sara Jean Sangdahl, but no relationship shown but I suspect a daughter or daughter-in-law
She is shown as widowed and was buried in Mt. Pleasant, St. Johnsbury, VT

***There is a second death cert for her with the birth date of July 22, 1885 crossed out and July 22, 1899 written over it so that is explained.

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Here is birth for Sarah Jean but no parents shown - I think we can assume she is daughter of George and Alice though.

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1 about Sara Jean Sangdahl
Name:       Sara Jean Sangdahl
Birth Date:       1 Sep 1943
Address:       209 Cross Rd, West Windsor, VT, 05089-9769 (1978)


Here is a bit more I found on the Sangdahl boys - sons of Nina

Ohio Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-1944, and 1958-2007 about Robert F Sangdahl
Name:       Robert F Sangdahl
Birth Date:       1923
Birth Country:       Canada
Gender:       Male
Race:       White
Residence City:       Mentor
Residence County:       Lake
Residence State:       Ohio
Residence Country:       United States
Death Date:       17 Jun 1987
Hospital of Death:       Lake County Memorial Hosp-East
City of Death:       Painesville
County of Death:       Lake
Certificate:       044067
Age at Death:       64
Certifier:       Physician
Autopsy:       No Autopsy performed
Social Security Number:       297-14-8444
Marital Status:       Married
Industry of Decedent:       Not specified manufacturing industries
Occupation of Decedent:       Purchasing agents and buyers, not elsewhere classified
Census Tract:       0014
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U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 about Robert F Sangdahl
Name:       Robert F Sangdahl
Birth Year:       1923
Race:       White, citizen (White)

Enlistment Date:       17 Mar 1943
Enlistment State:       Ohio
Enlistment City:       Fort Hayes Columbus
Branch:       Air Corps
Branch Code:       Air Corps
Grade Code:       Private
Component:       Reserves - exclusive of Regular Army Reserve and Officers of the Officers Reserve Corps on active duty under the Thomason Act (Officers and Enlisted Men -- O.R.C. and E.R.C., and Nurses-Reserve Status)
Source:       Enlisted Reserve or Medical Administrative Corps (MAC) Officer

Education:       Grammar school
Marital Status:       Single, without dependents
Height:       00
Weight:       123

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U.S., Department of Veterans Affairs BIRLS Death File, 1850-2010 about Robert Sangdahl
Name:       Robert Sangdahl
Gender:       Male
Birth Date:       17 Mar 1923
Death Date:       17 Jun 1987
SSN:       297148444

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Ohio Divorce Index, 1962-1963, 1967-1971, 1973-2007 about Robert F Sangdahl
Name:       Robert F Sangdahl
Birth Year:       1923
Times Married:       1
Residence:       Cuyahoga
Spouse's Name:       Mary L Sangdahl
Spouse's Birth Year:       1920
Spouse - Times Married:       1
Spouse's Residence:       Cuyahoga
Marriage Duration (Years):       18
Number of Minor Children:       4
Grounds for Divorce:       Gross Neglect of Duty
To Whom Decree Granted:       Wife
County of Decree:       Cuyahoga
Decree Date:       9 Jun 1967
Cerificate Number:       11298
Volume Number:       1751

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Cuyahoga County, Ohio, Marriage Records and Indexes, 1810-1973 about Robert F Sangdahl
Name:       Robert F Sangdahl
Marriage Date:       1948-1949
Form Type:       Index
Gender:       Male

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Cuyahoga County, Ohio, Marriage Records and Indexes, 1810-1973 about Robert F Sangdahl
Name:       Robert F Sangdahl
Marriage Date:       1967-1968
Form Type:       Index
Gender:       Male

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** problem with the marriage index above is that they do not show the corresponding name for the wife, and not even the complete date of marriage

There is a death record that looks like it is for a son of Robert and Mary L.


United States Obituary Collection about L. Eric Sangdahl
Name of Deceased:       L. Eric Sangdahl
Gender:       M (Male)
Age at Death:       56
Death Date:       6 Feb 2010
Obituary Date:       11 Feb 2010
Newspaper Title:       News-Herald
Newspaper Location:       Willoughby, OH, USA
Birth Date:       3 Mar 1953
Residence (at time of death):       Wickliffe
Spouse's Name:       Mary Jane (nee Maio)
Father's Name:       Robert
Mother's Name:       Mary Lou
Childrens' Names:       Katie, Elizabeth, Jonathon and Jessica
Siblings' Names:       Abbie (Ed) Frost, Chris (Ritva), John (Lou), Rob (Tina) and Kenyon; Mark (Rose) Maio; Monica (Paul) Gallagher, Shelly Maio and Marcie VanWinkle

OBIT:
A celebration of life service for L. Eric Sangdahl, 56, of Wickliffe will be 4 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 13, 2010, at the McMahon-Coyne-Vitantonio Funeral Home, 38001 Euclid Ave., Willoughby.

Mr. Sangdahl passed away Feb. 6, 2010, at his home surrounded by his family.

He was born March 3, 1953, in Cleveland.

He was a member of Local 18, Operating Engineers. He had a passion for animals and enjoyed sailing and camping. "He will remain in our hearts and will be deeply missed by all." He leaves behind a legacy of compassion, kindness and the power of family and friends.

He is survived by his loving wife, Mary Jane (nee Maio); beloved children, Katie, Elizabeth, Jonathon and Jessica; mother, Mary Lou; siblings, Abbie (Ed) Frost, Chris (Ritva), John (Lou), Rob (Tina) and Kenyon; mother-in-law, Gladys (Keith) Alvarez; brother-in-law, Mark (Rose) Maio; sisters-in-law, Monica (Paul) Gallagher, Shelly Maio and Marcie VanWinkle; and nieces, nephews and cousins.

Eric was preceded in death by his father, Robert.

The family will receive friends from 1 to 4 p.m. Saturday at the funeral home. A private family burial

In lieu of flowers, contributions may be made to the Wickliffe City Schools for the Eric Sangdahl Scholarship Fund.


U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1 about Robert Forbes Sangdahl Sr
Name:       Robert Forbes Sangdahl Sr
Phone Number:       255-0327
Address:       8200 Tyler Blvd, Mentor, OH, 44060-4252
[PO Box 385, Mentor, OH, 44061-0385 (1992)]
[13 Meadowlawn Dr Unit 1, Mentor, OH, 44060-6232 (1990)]


I just gave you the above as it shows his middle name as being Forbes

I did not find as much on Stanley G. born about 1921 NY but here is one bit which looks like he was in WA in 1992 and previously in CT

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1 about G Stanley Sangdahl
Name:       G Stanley Sangdahl
Birth Date:       10 Apr 1921
Address:       PO Box 410, Custer, WA, 98240-0410 (1992)


U.S. City Directories (Beta) about G Stanley Sangdahl
Name:       G Stanley Sangdahl
Residence Year:       1945
Street Address:       59 Trumbull av FTB
Residence Place:       Milford, Connecticut
Occupation:       Eng
Publication Title:       Milford, Connecticut, City Directory, 1945

** so looks like both boys were engineers like their father George.

I just found death for Stanley - I guess the G. stood for George. Birth date matches with Stanley above in WA record.

Social Security Death Index about George S. Sangdahl
Name:       George S. Sangdahl
Born:       10 Apr 1921
Died:       3 May 2010
State (Year) SSN issued:       Ohio (Before 1951)

I also found these two records which show George Stanley was in IL in 1966 and had a son born in 1957 who was in Il in 1984

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1 about G S Sangdahl Jr
Name:       G S Sangdahl Jr
Birth Date:       10 Apr 1921
[18 Apr 1957]
Phone Number:       655-0370
Address:       1012 Elizabeth Ave, Naperville, IL, 60540-5516
[1242 Ardmore Dr, Naperville, IL, 60540-0306 (1989)]
[1745 Downing CT, Naperville, IL, 60563-2022 (1985)]

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1 about G S Sangdahl Jr
Name:       G S Sangdahl Jr
Birth Date:       18 Apr 1957
[10 Apr 1921]
Address:       1745 Downing CT, Naperville, IL, 60563-2022 (1984)
[1012 Elizabeth Ave, Naperville, IL, 60540-5516]
[1242 Ardmore Dr, Naperville, IL, 60540-0306 (1993)]

So that means that both of Nina's sons with George have died, but they have living children who perhaps you could find. Names of Robert's children are in his obit and you now have name of at least one child of George Stanley.

I still cannot find a marriage for John Bates and Nina, but from marriage of George S. Sangdahl to Alice Bonner Bates you can assume you have the right people.

I found the marriage of John and Alice - did not expect this, but they were married in Texas - I wodner what he was doing there

Texas, Marriages, 1837-1973
marriage:       22 Sep 1918       Wichita Co.,​ Texas
spouse:       John H. Bates
groom's name:       John H. Bates
bride's name:       Alice L. Bonner
marriage date:       22 Sep 1918
marriage place:       Wichita Co., Texas
groom's marital status:       Unknown
bride's marital status:       Single
indexing project (batch) number:       M00035-6
system origin:       Texas-EASy
source film number:

AND got lucky again and found marriage of Nina and George - again not where I expected but here it is

District of Columbia Marriages, 1811-1950

Birth:       1889       
marriage:       04 Oct 1919       District of Columbia,​ United States


spouse:       Nina M Forbes
name:       George S Sangdahl
event:       Marriage
event date:       04 Oct 1919
event place:       District of Columbia, United States
age:       30
estimated birth year:       1889
spouse:       Nina M Forbes
spouse's age:       18
spouse's estimated birth year:       1901
digital folder number:       

There is an image of this record and it shows Nina as of Washington DC and George as of Brooklyn NY

The last two records - marriages were found at familysearch.org
If I think of any other databases to check I will do that.

Carolyn L



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