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Re: RALPH MUIR born 1947 Montreal
Posted by: Carolyn La Porte (ID *****6155) Date: March 28, 2012 at 13:53:57
In Reply to: RALPH MUIR born 1947 Montreal by Fred Bourdon of 2043

Hi Fred,

Here is a passenger list that look possible for him - birth year off a bit but mother is Ada. His father is not travelling with them

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Ralph Muir
Name:       Ralph Muir
Birth Date:       1 Sep 1949
Age:       5
Port of Departure:       Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date:       1 Jun 1955
Port of Arrival:       Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage:       Montreal
Ship Name:       Saxonia
Search Ship Database:       View the 'Saxonia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line:       Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number:       8328/01


I says:
They were visiting for 12 weeks at 7 Annadale Ave. Belfast
Ada's birthdate Sept. 28, 1905
Ralphs' birthdate Sept. 1, 1949
She is listed as a housewife
for both permanent residence - Canada
intended future permanent residence - Canada
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UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Ralph Muir
Name:       Ralph Muir
Birth Date:       1 Sep 1949
Age:       6
Port of Departure:       Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date:       26 Apr 1956
Port of Arrival:       Greenock, Scotland
Ports of Voyage:       Montreal
[Greenock]
Ship Name:       Saxonia
Search Ship Database:       View the 'Saxonia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line:       The Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number:       8328/01

It says In this one he is travelling with both parents

MUIR
Montgomery, born Feb. 12, 1909, paymaster
Ada, born Sept. 28, 1905, housewife
Ralph born Sept. 1, 1949, child
The address they were at was 182 Kelno St. Knightwood, Glasgow
It shows all of them as last permanent residence- Canada
Intended future permanent residence - Scotland

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neither of these states the actual birthplace of any of them, just birth dates.

I found Montgomery coming to Canada though and shows he was born Scotland. Let me know if you need that info.

I see that Montomery at least returned to Canada as his death record shows he died Aug. 18, 1985 Surrey, B.C. - wife Ada Brown Watson


Montgomery Charles Muir
British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986
birth:       12 Feb 1909       
death:       18 Aug 1985       
parents:       Muir
spouse:       Ada Brown Watson
death date:       18 Aug 1985
death place:       Surrey, British Columbia, Canada
name:       Montgomery Charles Muir
gender:       Male
age:       76y
birth date:       12 Feb 1909
birthplace:       Glasgow, Scotland
marital status:       Married
spouse:       Ada Brown Watson
father:       Muir
digital folder number:       4437834
british columbia archives film number:       B16575
registration number:       85 09 014324

I just realized these names seemed familiar - I had sent you a bit of info before, but I don't think I had found the passenger lists at that time.

If you google Ralph Muir, I see that in Canada411.ca there is a T. Ralph Muir living ing Surrey - shows a phone number so perhaps you could try it and see if he is related.

Sorry, I can't find anything more. I had also looked for Ada's death but did not find her.

Carolyn L


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