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Joly, Longuet, Carrié, Lafond - 4 puzzling lines
Posted by: Jacques Carrie Date: October 05, 2001 at 23:32:41
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Marie Louise Lafond, born on June 27, 1890 somewhere in France, married Camille Desiré Carrié on July 4, 1908, in Paris.

Camille Desiré, born on August 7, 1886, was a well-known Parisian baritone who at times sang together (duet) with the great Carusso in opera houses, including Rouen, Trouville, and the Trocadero of Paris.

Marie Louise also enjoyed show business. As a vaudeville showgirl, she sang and danced, often with her talented mother, Louise Lafond (born in 1872), in the Paris Opera Chorus and other places, including Rome, Vienna, and Moscow.

Camille Desiré and Marie Louise had a son, Marc Camille (my father, still living at 92), born in Nantes-sur-Seine (Seine-et-Oise), Paris area, on July 12, 1909. (French maps today only show Seine-la-Ville and Seine-la-Jolie, one touching the other, in what used to be Mantes-sur-Seine.) He grew up until the age of 17 with his father in Paris, since his mother had left the household early into the marriage after an ugly argument. Marc spent a great deal of his time working in a bycicle factory owned by his father, since both his mother and father spent most of the time on the road separately, performing in numerous theaters. Camille later married Madame Blancheville. He drank too much and died young in misery during World War II. Apparently his end came when a Nazi bomb hit the train he was riding on heading south from Paris. Marie Louise's end is unknown. So is Madame Blancheville's. (Marie Louise did correspond with Marc by mail for several years when Marc was already in his forties. But they stopped writing to each other at some point.)

Camille Desiré's father was Achille Carrié, the successful treasurer and director of an insurance company founded by his father in Paris. Achille's father (and mother) were from the South of France. They owned vineyards in the vicinity of Vergèze, near Nimes, which later they sold in order to move to Paris. These vineyards, research by Marc shows, later turned out to be the Perrier water site.

Camille Desiré's mother was Fernande Joly, a school teacher that eventually became school director. She came from the north of France (possibly Lille, near the Belgian border) together with 3 sisters (Henriette and Raizon, among them) and 2 brothers (Nestor, one of them). She may have ancestors from Canada, England, or Scotland. Fernande died at age 60.

Born in Ales (Gard), France, on August 5, 1939, I (one of Marc's two sons, the other being Louis) emigrated to Venezuela, South America, in 1949, where I lived until 1959. Then, I emigrated to the United States and in time became a U.S. citizen, settling in Los Angeles.

I got to meet both my father's mother and grandmother (Marie Louise and Louise Lafond) once, just the day before I left France, and only for a few minutes. I was 10 years old. Marie Louise was already near 60, her mother near 80. They both looked good, though - physically and spiritually!

For now, I would like to have leads connecting to Marie Louise (my grandmother) and her mother Louise [Lafond]. Who were their parents? Who was Louise's husband? Did she ever marry? Also, if possible, leads to Fernande [Joly], Achille [Carrié], and Madame Blancheville (whom I know nothing about). Any info related to my grandfather Camille Desiré (Marie Louise's husband) would also be appreciated.

Jacques Carrié


P.S. The following notes may interest you:

1. I stopped going to French schools at age 10, when I left the country, so please bear with me if I sometimes misspell a French word.

2. Nestor Joly, brother of Fernande, had a daughter, Charlotte, who fled with someone named Longuet (apparently, the secretary of Karl Marx, who may have been married to Jenny, one of Karl's three daughters). Some tips suggest they lived some years in London, England, before they moved to Canada. They had a daughter (Christine) who became a very famous American actress, under a different name, and a son who very likely is the father of Gerard Longuet, a high-profile Frenchman possibly living in the north of France today, perhaps Lorraine. Other tips point to Australia and New Zealand as places where the Longuet family may have lived in transition. I'm still in the process of researching these last details. Maybe someone with pertinent info can add some input here. That would be greatly appreciated. By the way, Nestor Joly, formerly a municipal architect of Paris, rose to Captain of Calvary in about 1870, when Napoleon III declared the war on Germany. He was gravely injured in the knee in combat and walked with a limp ever after. He was good to little Marc (my father), then 7 years old, and gave him lots of magazines and books to read, including Victor Hugo's novels. Marc went to his funeral when he died. His bust is displayed in a square in Paris.

3. I almost forgot to mention that the Family Carrié extends to Varilhes, a historical village of about 3000 people located about half way between Pamiers and Foix (Ariège), some 70 Km south of Toulouse.

I used to live in Toulouse when I was a kid, but I never suspected there was an avenue in Varilhes called Avenue Jacques Carrié, my own name, something I found out only recently. This Jacques Carrié must have been a very important person to have an avenue named after him. I'm not jealous, only curious. After all, the Carrié line, I've been told, is a rather short one. Or am I wrong? Who was this Jacques Carrié? Anybody knows? How does it connect to the Carrié line? Thanks.



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