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[cont'd][re postings by Price Cameron]
Attention: Kim Taylor of California [website Calcams] and
Nancy Owston of Tennessee [re your errors]
Dear Price,
RE your posting on GenForum May 10, 2009
You state: 1] "Daniel Charles Cameron [born in 1832] left home at an early age and was in the U..S. by the mid 1850s That he maintained contact with his family in Canada is apparent by the possession of his 1855 photograph by descendants of his younger brother, Charles Cameron [who died in Tupper Lake, N.Y. and whose widow provided incorrect information for his death certificate.]
Comment: I have a copy of the death certificate for Charles Cameron, died March 1911 at Tupper Lake, New York. His widow, Edith Holgate Cameron, was the informant mentioned on the death certificate, wherein she stated that her husband had been born in Scotland and that his father had been born in Scotland. Correct information[See my previous posting].
2] This Charles Cameron who died at Tupper Lake NY did not descend from Charles Cameron who was born after 1808 in Finch Township, who was the grandfather of Mr. Hill McLean [the informant who gave the information on his Mother's death certificate in 1922, that his grandfather, Charles Cameron had been born in Finch Township] Socalled researchers had also attempted to state that Mr. Hill McLean was 'wrong'. Mr. Hill McLean was an intelligent gentleman whom I knew. Edith Holgate Cameron was correct about the information she gave on her husband's death certificate wherein she stated he was born in Scotland.
3] Price, you also state: "....This photograph of my 23 year old grandfather was recently sent to me, and the similarity of his features with those of my son are astonishing ..."
Comment: For about one year Nancy Owston of Tennessee and I exchanged emails, because she was 'trying' to 'sort out' Cameron families. The lady who was the owner of that photograph you mention was contacted within this past year by certain 'researchers'. The owner of the photograph mentioned above did not know from what Cameron family she descended. She forwarded the above mentioned photograph to the socalled 'Cameron' researchers [I have a copy of that photograph]. There was nothing written on that photograph to indicate that it was a photograph of your grandfather. The owner of the photograph did not know who the man was. These socalled researchers were desperately trying to 'connect up' certain Cameron families, and have made many errors. Price, I have an 'uncanny' resemblance to many different people but that does not mean I am related to them. When I was young I was told I looked like 'Greta Garbo' but that didn't mean I was related to her. [now I simply look like an old woman with white hair]
Your story about Daniel Cameron is a 'flawed' oral history. There are no records to 'connect' him to Charles Cameron born after 1808 in Finch Township, the grandfather of Hill McLean, etc.
There were numerous Cameron families who settled up and down the Ottawa, from Buckingham, Quebec, to Chatham, Quebec, to Rigaud. The census can be notoriously wrong and is a bad research tool. 'Tracing back' on the Camerons in this area is a very elusive task, because of the similarity of 'first' names.
4] Comment: [your posting May 10] In the case of the James Cameron who suposedly wrote a letter in 1931 [a letter of which his own niece was unaware], he didn't even know the names of his grandfather or his grandmother, so why would an intelligent person use that supposed letter as a source of information? [i.e = Elizabeth Ferguson Blair who claimed in error in her rough manuscript prod. 1986 to descend from my gtgt grandfather, Donald Cameron, killed March 1809, etc.] You are assuming that the name of the grandfather of above mentioned James Cameron was 'Donald'. You are assuming[as Mrs. Blair also did] that his grandmother was the 'destitute widow', etc. Assumption and supposition.] No one ever heard of the destitute widow until Mrs. Elizabeth Ferguson Blair produced in 1986 her erroneous manuscript,etc.
The tragedy of my gtgt grandfather, Donald Cameron, was a well known one within Finch Township, and it is obvious that the letter supposedly written by James Cameron included many details[borrowed] about my gtgt grandfather's demise.
4] There is no record of the 'destitute widow' and her husband having lived at the site of the village of Berwick, Lot 15, Conc 6, as I have already stated in another posting in answer to your posting. There is no record of a man having drowned at the site of the village of Berwick. Mr. Allan MacMillan of Glenpean built the first mill in Finch Township. There is no record for a mill having been built on Lot 15, Concession 6, Finch Township in 1811[I checked at Registry Office etc]. The destitute widow, Mrs. Janet Cameron, did not own any property, or have leases on property. Her petition for land was just that == a petition. She was destitute. Poverty stricken. There is no record of her owning property in Finch Township or in any other township. The name of the clerk on the petition was 'McDonell'. She wasn't a McDonell [I descend from the McDonells]. All these assumptions by you and socalled researchers have been mind bloggling. My grandfather, Donald Cameron, born May 17, 1847, a Reeve at various times of Finch Township, and assessor and collector for thirty years, owned property in the village of Berwick. He was born forty eight years after his grandfather's tragic accident. He had excellent records.
5] Mr. Bruce Cameron who knew that Donald Cameron, my gtgt grandfather, killed March 1809, was from Lot 21, Concession 4, Finch Township, and that is 'where' Mrs. Elizabeth Ferguson Blair acquired her information about my great great grandfather. Mr. Bruce Cameron's niece told me one time a long time ago, how she used to see my father walk along the street then she'd see old Father Cameron come down the same street, and she thought they were brothers they looked so much alike....Another one of 'those' Camerons used to cut my three acres of lawn a long time ago. He looked very much like my nephew. Resemblances. Yes. Many Camerons resemble each other. After all, many Camerons do have a common ancestor.
6] In your posting of May 9, 2009, you state: "John Graham Harkness in his [1946] History of Stormont, etc......does mention your family in Finch....page 84." Comment: Mr. Harkness [his son in law was a cousin to my mother]included many photos of many members of my family in 'his book'. [i.e. = my grandfather MacLean, my uncle, my gt granduncle Dr. Will Johnstone, etc. My gt grandfather, Lachlan MacLean, looked exactly like Archie MacLean in Harkness' book] He was a friend of my father and grandfather, etc. He did write an excellent history but it, unfortunately, has become a source of errors for socalled genealogists, etc. [i.e. Donald Whyte who wrote a 'reference ' book called 'Scottish Emigrants to Canada, wherein he used Mr. Harkness' book for a reference on my gtgt grandfather, Donald Cameron, renaming him to 'Hugh' in error etc. etc.==as Mr. Harkness did...] Mr. Harkness did not contact my father about the book, and when he gave a complementary copy to my father in August 1945, my father was very upset over the errors made by Mr. Harkness. [my father was a very busy man in 1945 and Mr. Harkness was retired] My father did not wish to upset Mr. Harkness so he didn't explain the errors made by him on page 84 [Mr. Harkness was in his eighties when he wrote the book and didn't intend it to be a genealogical source] Unfortunately, the local gen./authors keep carrying on the errors made by Mr. Harkness [don't ask me why people keep writing local books, etc.]
The correct info on page 84 is ==."...did not come to Finch until 1808. He was killed in the following year by a falling tree....." My great great grandfather, Donald Cameron and his wife, Nancy Cameron, lived with relatives near the south branch Road and Summerstown Road near Cornwall before 'going north' to Finch in 1808. Donald and his brother, Allan, went north in 1808. Price, you can read my book when it's finished. I shall give you a complementary copy.
7] May 9 == you state: "...As your father was J.G. Cameron, this was certainly your family...." == J.G. [Joseph George]Cameron was born May 2nd, 1890, and would have celebrated his one hundred and nineteenth birthday on May 2nd, 2009, so why, Price, would you say that he was my father? No records. Just my word for the fact that Joseph George Cameron born 1890 was my father? Usually, socalled researchers are very sceptical about the one hundred year span...my family was 'long' living.
But, yes, you are right. Joseph George Cameron was my father, born 1890, a very intelligent gentleman who wrote many professional articles for technical magazines. He graduated from Queen's University Kingston in 1914 as a Civil Engineer and was County Engineer for the united Counties of Stormont Dundas and Glengarry from 1917 until 1962, a very knowledgeable historian of these counties, and, hence, my interest in the history of these counties. My Grandmother, Catharine Sutherland Cameron[1854-1949][also a desc. of Clunes Camerons] was an elementary schoolteacher in the 1870s, a graduate of the model school in Morrisburg Ontario, who was also a very astute family historian. She was a cousin to the children of John Stuart Cameron who had owned the general store in Cumberland,Ontario, in the 1880s, and my grandmother's first cousin, Duncan Angus Sutherland, married the daughter of John Stuart Cameron[Fassifern Camerons] My Grandmother took great pride in the fact that her grandmother was a McDonell, whom she knew well who had been born in 1788.
8] May 9== You stated: "Since you have never hesitated to volunteer your ideas on who you thought my family was....etc." == Price, I became involved in 'all this' because of the rough manuscript produced in 1986 by Elizabeth Ferguson Blair and her relatives[which included your relatives in the States], who claimed, in errror, to descend from my great great grandfather, Donald Cameron, killed March 1809, etc. etc.
I am making all the corrections because of my father and grandmother, and for all the other older generations in my family.
Shall continue in another posting re your postings...
Margaret Cameron,
Long Sault
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