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I've read various information on the James Vann family which appears to differ from what I have in my records. I'm trying to determine which is correct. I welcome any input. I've seen several posts indicating
Capt. James Vann married 1. Mary Robinson and then 2. Mary Butler Tatum. The Capt. part doesn't match what I have found so far.
My records indicate the James Vann who married Mary Robinson was the great grandson of Capt. William Vann. But he was not the Capt. James Vann associated with the Cherokee. Did he serve in the Civil War and reach rank of Capt.? If anyone has information on whether or not he was called Capt. James Vann, I would appreciate knowing it.
I've found no records so far indicating such. Plus two of his children were born during the Civil War timeframe. I've read posts by others stating Mary Robinson Vann died of an illness contracted while assisting a physician in 1862 or 1864 with patients. He would have married Mary Jane Butler after 1862 or 1864. Unclear if it was prior to 1870 or 1880, depending if the 1870 census listing his wife as Sarah is incorrect.
I have the following:
James Vann
b. abt 1822-28 Sampson Co. d. after 1880 & before 1900
in Cumberland Co.(Fayetteville, NC)
s/o Enoch Vann & Rebecca Tatum (Sampson Co, NC)
gs/o John Vann & Sarah Sheperd/Sheppard (Sampson Co)
ggs/o Capt. William Vann (Chowan Co, NC> Duplin Co>
Sampson Co, NC) & Phoebe
James Vann--Census records indicate birth years ranging
from 1822-1827.
James married
1. Mary Robinson before 1850 Sampson Co., NC
2. Mary Jane BUTLER after 1862-64 but before 1870 if she
is the wife listed as Sarah in the 1870 census
She would have been married 1st to James R Tatum
*found one record indicating a James R.Tatum died
during Civil War in Maryland in 1862. If that is the
correct James Tatum, it is logical that Mary could be
the second wife and the name on the 1870 census is
incorrect for James' wife.
1850 Census: Sampson Co., NC
James age 28 wife Mary (Robinson) age 19
children:
Sarah age 2
George age 2/12 *Junius possibly*
1860 Census Sampson Co., NC Taylor's Bridge
James age 34 Wife: Mary (Robinson) age 28
Children:
Sarah age 12
Junius age 9
Thomas age 6
Claudius age 4
Festus age 4
Virginia age 2
1870 Census Fayetteville, Cumberland Co., NC
James age 43 butcher
wife: Sarah (??Mary Butler Tatum instead???) age 36 keeping house
Children:
Junius age 19 farm hand (child of Mary Robinson)
Thomas age 17 farm hand (child of Mary Robinson)
Augustus age 14 farm hand (child of Mary Robinson)
Thadeus age 14 farm hand (name difficult to read) (child of Mary Robinson)
Virginia age 12 at home (child of Mary Robinson)
Enoch age 10 at home (child of Mary Robinson)
I age 8 at home (probably Ida Tatum shown on 1880 census)
*name might read Isadore, Isabella (hard to read)*
Julius age 6 at home (probably Julius Tatum on 1880 census)
Josephine age 4 at home
Mary age 2 at home
1880 census Cumberland Co., NC
James age 53 wife:
Mary JT (Mary Butler Tatum) age 35
Children:
Enoc J. age 18 farmer
Josephine C age 14 at school
Mary age 11 at school
WCT (or WGT) age 8 at school
Neill A age 7 at school
Clarence A age 4 at home
Edwin (H?) age 3 at home
Ida L. Tatum age 17 at home (stepdaughter)
Julius L. Tatum age 15 laborer
1900 Census Fayetteville, NC Cumberland County
Mary J Vann age 57 widow
b. Jan. 1842/8 (2 is marked over with an 8)
Child:
Edd H. b. Aug. 1878 age 22 marked over with 21
*** Ages differ by 36 years, yet birth year difference
of 30 years. If the 36 years is correct, Mary would
have been born abt 1843. That would make her true
age closer to the same year recorded in the 1870
census for James' wife Sarah, another indicator of
error on wife's name in 1870 census.****
Residence: Hillsboro St. Cross Creek division
Living next door to her stepdaughter, Virginia
Vann Branch
1910 Census Fayetteville, Cumberland Co., NC
Cross Creek Hillsboro St.
Mary J Vann age 65 11 children 7 living
boarder in home of Cleveland & Estelle Collie,
next door to her stepdaughter, Virginia Vann Branch
1920 January 20th Death Certificate for Mary Jane Vann
widowed, living on Hillsboro St, Fayetteville, NC
age: about 78 (would put birth about 1842
buried: Fayetteville, NC on Jan. 20, 1920
Informant: JR Vann (either stepson or grandson)
***Was there a mistake with the name of the wife on the 1870 census? Julius and Ida are listed as Vann children on the 1870 census. James' wife is listed as Sarah. I have found no record other than the census for 1870 identifying him as being married to a Sarah.
Ida Tatum Vann's (married Junius R. Vann) death certificate lists her parents as James R Tatum and Mary Jane Butler
Julis Lilly Tatum's death certificate lists his parents as Richardson Tatum and Mary Butler.
If this is the case, since both of those children are listed with James Vann in 1870, would Mary have been his wife then instead of the Sarah listed on the census?
I have 2 photos found in my great grandmother's (Katie Louise Branch Rhodes) photo album that I would like to share with others connected to the James Vann family above. The album might have initially belonged to her elder sister, Callie Belle Branch Hilburn. They were the daughters of Virginia Ruth Vann Branch and William McNeal Branch. Their grandparents were James Vann and Mary Robinson Vann.
One photo I believe is of James Vann and 2 of his daughters. If it is James, it would have been taken prior to 1900. If not, possibly it is of one of the older sons, but the man looks too old to be one of the sons.
The other possibly is another of his children with a spouse and possibly a honeymoon or vacation trip. It was taken at an ostrich farm in NC. I am unable to identify the people in the photo, but it was mailed to MJ Vann in Fayetteville, NC in 1915.
Thanks in advance. If you are connected and would like to see the photos, please email me at ncgensearcher@hotmail.com.
Susan
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