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Re: Alice Graham Kenner
Posted by: Carolyn L (ID *****6155) Date: March 07, 2009 at 19:17:22
In Reply to: Re: Alice Graham Kenner by Naseemah Graham of 4261


Naseemah, I have copied most of your last post so it will be easier for you to see what I am asking about and what I have found.


Alice's last name on my grandfather's (Dave) death record states that she is a Browning.I don't know if she had a middle name. She is from Malvern Arkansas. Her father was Young Browning, from GA. Mother was Rosie Lee Giles (Browning) from SC. They had 10 children, eight living. Robert, Mary, Cora, Alice, Snoie, Lovie, Tommie, Willie H Browning. They married in 1879 married 21 years.
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From this info I assume you have the 1900 census for them. Did you find them in 1910/20/30? I have had not luck for those years for Young or Rose/Rosie.
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I wasn't sure if this was them but evidently after Tommie got out of the military he moved to St. Louis with Alice. Alice was listed on the death record for his informant as Alice Browning. I wish I could locate some of their children but it stops there. I couldn't find anything else after that.

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Does this mean you have his death record? When did he die? I believe I found him in 1920 census.

1920 ST. LOUIS ST.LOUIS, MO - 3512 Market Street
BROWNING
Tom, boarder, black, age 23, single, carpenter's helper, carpenter shop, born AR father born SC mother born SC

I also found this military entry
WORLD WAR 1 DRAFT REGISTRATION - 6-5-18
BROWNING
Tomie, age 21, black eyes, black hair
3317 Market Street, St. Louis,MO
Born Sept. 19, 1896, Malvern, AR
Father born: has ???? South Carolina so maybe he wasn't sure
Employed at: Wabash R.R.
Nearest relative: mother: Rose Hughs, 3317 Market Street, St. Louis, MO

** so looks like his mother also went to St. Louis and remarried??

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On one census record Mabel was listed as Maybell born in Arkansas.

Is this the 1920 census? I found that Dave, Alice and Maybell are with Harrison Henderson, so they were enumerated twice. I gave you the first one I found.
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Sam had to be older than my father David which was born June 1923 because he had to be the last child with Dave being killed in May 1923. I know Sam died in New York because my cousin went to the funeral. She met Sam and David when they were teen boys and she's a year older than my father David. She remembers bits and pieces.
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I couldn't find anything on Sam. He should be in the SSDI though but I cannot find him.
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Charles Graham died in a mental institution I was told in St. Louis.

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I may have found him in 1920
1920 ST. LOUIS, ST. LOUIS, MO - 2612 GRAND AVE.
GRAHAM
Charles, age 20, black, janitor, apt., born AR both parents born AR

Estelle, wife, age 20, black, born MO both parents born MO

I could not find either of them in 1930 - could he have died by then?

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Josiah C Thomas (Fannie's son) was a mail clerk in the post office in St. Louis and he died in 1966 but I was wondering did he have children.

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1910 ST. LOUIS, ST. LOUIS, MO - 3024 LAWTON AVE.
THOMAS
Josiah, age 26, black, married 3 years, mail clerk, P.O., born AR both parents born AR

Hattie, wife, age 27, black, married 3 years, no children, housework, private house, born MS both parents born MS

I couldn't find him or Hattie in 1920 or 1930 census - could he have died young too?
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Harrison Henderson Fannie's son) also died early in St. Louis. I wanted to find out if he had children also.

I found a Harrison Henderson in 1930 census but not sure he is yours.
1930 ST LOUIS, ST. LOUIS, MO - 3430 MARKET STREET
HENDERSON
Harrison age 41, black, married age 31, butcher, packing house, born AR both parents born AR

Frankie, wife, age 44, first married age 34, picker, nut factory, born AR both parents born MS

DOLSON, Mary, mother-in-law, age 72, widow, born MS both parents born Tn

*** this does not agree with 1920 census where he was 28 and already married with wife Edna, unless Edna and Frankie are the same person and ages are just wrong. I doubt that though as Edna would have aged 21 years in 10 years.

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Could you also look for Stella because I think Charles Morgan was her son but it didn't look like Stella moved to St. Louis with Fannie her mother and the rest of them.

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I tried to find her but had no luck - maybe she died or maybe she remarried?
But she must have been in MO since that is where son Charles is show born as for the 1920 census.
I couldn't find Charles in 1930 either .

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Yes I would like early records for Fannie and her son Dave.
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1900 CAMDEN, OUACHITA, AR (all in same household)
LA MAY
Fannie, head, washerwoman, black, age 40, born June 1860, married 7 years, 8 children, 5 living, born AR both parents born NC

GRAHAM
David, son ,cook, black, age 21, born Sept. 1878, married 1 year,born AR both parents born AR

Henrietta, daughter-in-law, washerwoman, age 18, born Aug. 1881, married 1 year, 1 child born, 1 living born AR both parents born AR

Charles H. grandson. black, age 5/12 born Jan. 1900 born AR both parents born Ar

THOMAS
J.C. son, black, age 16 born Jan. 1886, born AR father born LA mother born AR

I.E. ( or J.E.) daughter, age 12, born March 1888 born Ar father born LA mother born AR

HENDERSON
A.J.H., son, black, age 9, born Feb. 1891 born AR father born LA mother born Ar

LA MAY
Willie, son, black, age 6, born Sept.1893 born AR both parents born AR


**** could daughter I.SE. or J.e. be Stella - Estella maybe? she is right age.

Fannie's maiden name were different on death records. One was Boone, and the other was Mumphrey. But her mother's name was Harriet Sutherland supposedly from Haysville NC. I don't know if that info is correct though. But her name was Harriet on Fannie's death record. I was also trying to find James Graham and was he married to Fannie because on Dave's death record his father was listed as James Graham from Arkansas.

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I haven't found anything on Fannie as either a Boone or a Mumphrey. I tried to find a Harriet Boone or Mumphrey too but had no luck.
One of the problems may be that Fannie was born about 1861 or so and may have been a slave or born to slaves - sad as that is to say. Do you know if that is the case?
Ancestry.com has what they call slave schedules but it seems to be a listing of slave owners not the slaves themselves so that is not much help.

If they were not slaves they should be in the census records but as I said I could not find them. I couldn't find them in 1870 or 1880 either though and they really should be there somewhere. I tried in 1880 for David as well as Fannie and David's father James but found none of them.

So I'm afraid this is all I have been able to find for you. Please let me know if I can help anymore.

Carolyn L.


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