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Re: Hannah Brazie (Pressie reference)
Posted by: Bruce Davis (ID *****0422) Date: November 06, 2003 at 16:19:37
In Reply to: Re: Hannah Brazie Brazee Brasy Bresie Bressie Bresee Brezee Brisy Brisi Brisey by John Graupman of 97

Hi again John,

How do you spell "Brasie"??

Your comment on "Pressie" got me thinking. Perhaps I had been overlooking a significant connection. So, I went hunting.

I had always considered that a person of German descent, writing in the English language, from the pronunciation of "Brussi" by a person of Dutch descent, might put a "P" where the "B" should go. This I call the occasional accident of spelling,

But I found two places where it was more common, perhaps the spelling of a couple of preachers at the local churches. I found a few more in other towns that appear to be accidents. These Presies all appear to be members of the Brussi line that I am chasing as I could collate most of them (found them before by a more conventional spelling), I found the following:

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Germantown, Columbia, NY (appear to be all accidents)
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NICOLAAS PRESSIE, bp April 07, 1736, Germantown, Columbia, NY
Parents GABRIEL PRESSIE/JANNETJE HALENBEK
collated parents, added Nicolass

CORNELIUS PRESSIE, bp May 25, 1756, Germantown, Columbia, NY
parents PETRUS PRESSIE/SUSANNA DEICKMANN
collated parents, added Cornelius

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Manorton, Columbia, NY (Saint Johns Lutheran, Manorton, Columbia, NY)
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BASTIAN PRESSIE, b July 29, 1780, Manorton, Columbia, NY
ELISABETH PRESSIE, b June 09, 1776, Manorton, Columbia, NY
Parents DENUS PRESSIE/MAGDALENA\\
collated all

(parents of Bastian)
DENUS PRESSIE, b probably March 09, 1747/48, place unknown, Spouse Magdalena Bain
parents DENUS PRESSIE/Elisabeth Sissum

CATHARINA PRESSIE, b November 20, 1779, Manorton, Columbia, NY
DENUS PRESSIE, b June 23, 1773, Manorton, Columbia, NY
Parents JOHANNES (HANS) PRESSIE/MARIA\\ (Maria Bein)
collated all

ANDREAS PRESSIE, b December 23, 1775, Manorton, Columbia, NY
parents FRANZ PRESSIE/MARGARETHA\\
could not collate, added all

ARIANGE PRESSIE, b July 11, 1781, Manorton, Columbia, NY
parents NICLAS PRESSIE/ELISABETH\\ (Elisabeth Silvernagel)
collated all

CORNELIUS PRESSIE, b January 07, 1774, Manorton, Columbia, NY
parents ANDREAS PRESSIE/FEITGE \\
collated parents, added Cornelius

JANITIGE PRESSIE, b February 15, 1781, Manorton, Columbia, NY
parents WEINSAN PRESSIE/JANITGE\\
collated parents, added Janitige

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Hillsdale, Columbia, NY (Reformed Dutch Church, Hillsdale, Columbia, NY)
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ENGLIGE PRESSIE, b June 11, 1776, Hillsdale, Columbia, NY
Parents NICLAS PRESSIE/CORNELIA\\ (Neeltje Freer)
collated all

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Churchtown, Columbia, NY (notes follow):
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(Churchtown was a common reference to St Thomas Lutheran Churchtown, Claverack, Columbia, NY. Depending on when you look, Churchtown was an early name for, was near, or was in Claverack, Columbia, NY.)

MARIA PRESSIE, August 17, 1777, Churchtown, Columbia, NY
JOHANNES PRESSIE, b January 12, 1783, Churchtown, Columbia, NY
parents BENJAMIN (BEN) PRESSIE/ELISABETH\\
collated parents, added Maria, Johannes

CNELIA PRESSIE, b June 26, 1767, Churchtown, Columbia, NY
parents STOPHEL PRESSIE/MARIA\\
could not collate, added all (Stophel probably "Christophel")

CATHARINA PRESSIE, b March 16, 1763, Churchtown, Columbia, NY
CORNELIA PRESSIE, June 19, 1768, Churchtown, Columbia, NY
parents WENSAN PRESSIE/MARIA\\
could not collate, added all

CATHARINA PRESSIE, b June 01, 1771, Churchtown, Columbia, NY
CORNELIUS PRESSIE, b February 18, 1776, Churchtown, Columbia, NY
parents ANDREAS PRESSIE/MARIA\\
could not collate, added all

FEITGE PRESSIE b July 01, 1774, Churchtown, Columbia, NY
parents ANDREAS PRESSIE/ELSIE\\
could not collate, added all

PETER PRESSIE, bp May 16, 1763, Churchtown, Columbia, NY
parents DENUS PRESSIE/ELISABETH\\ (Elisabeth Sissum)
collated all (note that Denus was frequently used interchangably w/Teunis)

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Rhinebeck, Dutchess, NY (Saint Peters Lutheran Church, Rhinebeck, Dutchess, NY)
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CORNELIA PRESSI, b September 27, 1735, Rhinebeck, Dutchess, New York
parents WENSAM PRESSI/ELISABETHA\\
could not collate, added all


How do you spell Brazie?? I think any Pressies or similar spellings that you find are part of the Brussi line that I am chasing. I find no evidence of any other line using that or similar spelling.

On the subject of spelling Brazie, I can't speak with a lot of authority, but I can give you (and anyone else who is interested) the benefit of my personal experience below.

First, my special case. "Brazie" is my default alias surname. I can't count how many times I found an individual by that surname (certainly more than a couple hundred) because everyone in my file (1387 or them) have the found or assigned surname "Brazie".

Now, to the most common spellings I have found (more than 100 of each):

Brazee - 206
Bresee - 264
Bresie - 140

More than 50:

Brasie - 61
Brasee - 53
Brisee - 76
Brusie - 57

More than 25:

Breese - 36 **
Brezee - 42
Brisie - 31
Brissie - 31
Brizee - 32
Brussi - 26
Burzee - 27
Pressie - 35 (now)

Others, mostly ones and twos:

Barzee Berzee Bracie Bracy Bralee
Bras Brase Brasell Brasese Brassy
Brasy Braze Brazer Brazier Breasee
Breesee Breesie Breeso Breeze Breezee
Breezy Breisey Brese Breser Bresi
Bresse Bressee Bressep Bresser Bressi
Bressie Bressy Bresy Brezae Breze
Brezie Brezier riesey Briesie Briesy
Brise Brisey Brisi Brisig Brissay
Brisse Brissee Brissey Brissi Brissy
Brisy Brisze Brizie Brizzee Brosie
Brozee Brozer Brozie Bruise Brusee
Brussie Brussy Brusy Bruzee Brysee
Paree Presee Presie Pressi Preuss
Pries Prisie Prys

Finally, a few special notes:

* I don't maintain that everyone in my file is a member of the Brussi/Brazie/Bresee line. Most are (confirmed thru second sources), but some I collected from curiosity, and have not eliminated them yet.

* I found tons of Bracy and Bracie, but only two or three which I could connect. Except for an occasional accident of spelling, these are separate lines unless I can find a real connection.

* Most names starting with "Bree" are leftovers from my early days of hunting, before I decided these were separate lines.

Bruce


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