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Is it James Pleasants, after all?
Posted by: Kathryn Merritt Date: February 05, 2001 at 22:11:36
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I'm sorry to keep carrying on here, but look at what I found! This is a copy of an email I sent someone. I'm telling you, my James P. is James [Pleaz] as far as we know. We didn't dream it up. I don't know how they knew it, but I know someone found it. I was going to say he was not and could not be James Pleasants, but why not? Why can't he be and why can't the census be wrong?

I keep finding information in the censuses that is too close to not be him and yet the dates are all off. Out of 14 kids, there are at least 10 of the names that are too close to be coincidence. I can account for every one of them in some other context in the family. In fact, one of them is Fisher, Elizabeth Fisher Bolding's maiden name! Yet the dates are wrong.

The 1880 Census of Navarro Co., TX has James P.'s birthdate off by two years. He's older. They also say his youngest child is 5 and was born in MS. That's impossible. He left MS soon after the Civil War. In fact, the Masonic Lodge in MS there had a James P. who kept his dues up most of the time until 1863, then suddenly disappeared without a trace and is not mentioned in their roster of the dead.

Our James P. was also a Mason. Now look at the middle name of Pleaz, then look at what I copied and pasted of another family that also had someone with the middle name of Pleasants. He also used Pleaz for a middle name. Tell me I am not dreaming....

We have got it all backwards, I think. The census is wrong. Someone screwed it up!!!! Don't you get it? It happened on a regular basis. You have to look for all the clues!!! We have James P. on the 1880 Navarro Co. Census where his father is born in Virginia and his mother in South Carolina. We're not sure that's correct for his father but his mother is another story.

Remember Elizabeth Gibson was b. in SC. Yes, I know, James Pleasants Sr. is too young to be his father IF you believe the census. Let us guess he was *very * young and the census messed the dates up at the same time.

Think it's impossible? We have another man on another side whom we know darn good and well was born on the Isle of Man and yet his birthplace is listed as Vermont on the Census. It's like this...I was born in New Mexico--people assume I'm a New Mexican but my parents were only in the service and they were Texans. But if I tell people I'm a Texan (since I never lived in NM), they assume I was b. in Texas because everyone else in my family was. You see how it's possible? Assumptions!!!

Feedback?

Kathryn

Subject:
Oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look at this! I found this at this site on someone else's genealogy
to see if such a name as "Pleaz" existed. This is located at:
http://members.aol.com/genny1/clemmons.html
I can't underscore it on netscape, but look at the children of these
people: Isaac Pleasant "Pleaz". Do you think what I think? We have
had it all wrong on the dates!!!!!! Hang the census. Something's
going on here!

Kathryn


WATTS, Mason Bennett "Ben" & wife, Mary CLEMMONS lived in Tenn.
(Jackson, Smith, DeKalb counties) early 1800's, believed to have
removed to
Washington Co., Mo. @ 1830-40 and then to Arkansas where they both
died near Little Rock of "fever". The children made their way back to
TN. to relatives
still there. Children include Isaac Pleasant "Pleaz" md (1) Mary
Ellender "Polly" ATNIP & (2) Nancy PATTERSON, Susannah md Jacob
ATNIP, Mary J. md
Nineveh MULLICAN, John md Bettie YOUNG, Elizabeth, Thomas md Matilda
CLARK, Sarah md Christopher ERVIN , and Ben. Possibly other children.
Mason Bennett "Ben" WATTS is believed to be the son of Bennett WATTS
and Susannah THORNTON.



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