Biddy Family Genealogy Forum
Dudley, I don't know where Peter Biddy seemingly disappears to early on in our quest. Either he died early or is using another
name (first/middle ?). I think we can eleminate the possibility he's Edmond due to the data in the census records. A person
being enumerated in different states during the same decade would exhibit the same family composition, ie members in the same
age/sex category. The same is true for your ancestor, John Biddy. He applied for the pension in Union County during 1832.
His age of 70 fits the person being enumerated there in 1830 but not in AL during that decade. John seems to be a popular
name in the Biddy family and fits with the hypothesis Thomas and Edward Biddy were sons of a John Biddy from York County
VA. More on that later. I think careful scrutiny of the pension record indicates your John Biddy moved to MS and then AL
sometime between 1836 and 1838. However, I may be in error. John was landed in SC, when did he last sell land there?
Ruby Fennel is still with us according to a recent message from her cousin, Verna Johnson. I haven't corresponded with her
since 1995. So I don't know how active she is in genealogy. I still have the data she sent me, one particular piece apparently is
from another researcher she couldn't recollect at that time. Possibly she is that person in earlier years, current handwriting and
memory being affected by the stroke, but I think it was from another source. Although I don't agree with all of that researcher's
conclusions, I'll quote the photocopied research she sent verbatum. The missing portions of words, ages, ect.. are from the
photocopy being cut off on the margin.
"The earliest reference to our Biddy family I've yet located are Edward and Thomas Biddy (I believe they are brothers) in
Lunenburg Co. Virginia (see map I). Lunenburg Co. was formed in 1746 as settlers from the tidewater area moved South and
West to find new land. During the 1760's, new migration into Lunenburg Co. was primarily from the counties along the York
and James Rivers.
Sunlight on the Southside, Bell 1974
Lists of Tithes, Lunenburg Co. VA 1748-1783
Edward Biddey (page 247) 1764 St. James Parish - later became Mecklenburg Co. VA in 1764
Thomas Biddey (page 282) 1769
Cumberland Parish, Lunenburg Co. VA 1746-1816, Bell
return of processioning, order of vestry 30 Sept. 1763, Cumberland Parish
Thomas Biddy (page 513)
Thomas Biddy (page 528) 24 Sept. 1767
Cumberland Parish was north of the Meherrin River, St. James Parish was south. John Biddy states in his Revolutionary War
Pension application (S 10374) that he was born in Lunenburg Co (VA) July 17, 1762. The King's Proclamation Line 1763
forbid migration west across the Blue Ridge (roughly today Blue Ridge Parkway in NC and VA). The Biddys moved south to
Union Co. SC about 1770. Map II shows the old wagon trails from VA southwest through NC into SC and GA. Union Co.
SC was at this time still part of Colonial Ninety-six District SC.
Union Co. SC Deed Book C - page 158
Thomas Biddie to John Biddie Aug 13, 1792
both men Union Co. SC planters
Thomas Biddie and Susannah, his wife
for 162 lbs Sterling, money of SC
150 acres situated in Ninety-six District, Union Co on Tyger River, a branch of Broad River
land granted to Thomas Biddie April 14, 1772
Land Grant Maps #2 and #3 (I don't yet have copies)
of the Union Co. Historical Society show a number of orginal tracts along Tyger River belonging to Edward Biddy and John
Jury Lists of South Carolina 1778-1779, Hendrix and Lindsey
Spartan District, Ninety-six (page 102)
Union Co. SC - Minutes of the County Court 1785-1799
Thomas Biddy Jr
note: many different phonetic spellings of Biddy
The Revolutionary War in the Carolinas was more like a Civil War dividing neighbors and families into Patriots and Loyalists.
The Biddys were Patriots and served in the local militias. Col. Thomas Brandon was the local militia commander from Union
Co. and lived not far from the Biddy's. Capt. Samuel Otterson had a fort not far from the Biddy's. Five major Revolutionary
War battles were fought in Union Co. - several were literally in the Biddy's backyard. For details see John Biddy's pension
Revolutionary Claims Filed in SC, Revill 1969
Roster of SC Partiots in the Revolutionary War
John Biddie (S 10374)
Hollis Biddy - served under Brandon
Peter Biddy - served under Brandon
Thomas Biddy JR - served under Brandon
Patriots at the Battle of the Cowpens
(also other references)
Several members of the Biddy family received land for their Revolutionary War service.
Index to SC Land Grants 1784-1800
Edward Biddy (page 527) 1787
Hollis Biddy (page 283) 1791
Edward Biddy (page 298) 1786
John Biddy (page 399) 1785
John Biddy (page 400) 1785
John Biddy (page 398) 1785
1790 Census SC (Ninety-six District) Union Co.
Thomas Biddy 4 males 3 females over 16
2 males under 16
Peter Biddy 1 male 2 females over 16
1 male under 16
1800 Census SC Union District
(p228) Hollis Biddey 1 male under 10
1 male over 45
1 female 16-26
(p232a) Edmond Biddey male not given
1 female 26-45
also living nearby:
(p229) Edward Biddey 4 free persons (colored)
(p229) Thomas Biddey 9 free persons (colored)
(p230) John Biddey 3 free persons (colored)
(p231) Mary Biddey 7 free persons (colored)
Evidently, the Biddys had freed their slaves who kept the Biddy name and used the same first names as well. Free negroes
were rare. The association with free blacks is a strong factor in positively identifying the family in Alabama later.
1810 Census SC Union District
(p23) Edmond Biddy 3 males (10-16) 1 female (45)
(p23) John Biddy (male not given) 1 female (26-45)
11 free persons (colored)
(p23) Henry Biddy (male not given) 1 female (10-16)
2 free persons (colored)
Other Union Co. Deed entries:
Deed Book D page 117
Hollis Biddie to Bird Beauford May 17, 1794 (78 acres) on Tyger River, bounded NW by Thomas Biddie
granted by his Excellency Charles Pinckney, Govenor
witness: Edmond Biddie
Deed Book F page 157
Edward Biddy to Edward Lee March 17, 1799 50 acres Beaver Dam Branch, Tyger River
grant dated 30 March 1775 by his Excellency William
Deed Book K page 117
John Biddie to James Crenshaw Feb.14, 1810 150 acres on Tyger River
witness: Henry Biddie
Deed Book M page 66
we: Obedience Biddie, John Biddie, Mary Biddie, Thomas Biddie, Edmond Biddie, Henry Biddoe, and Thomas Price
261 acres on Cane Creek - James Hawkins Nov.12, 1812
Deed Book N page 187
John Biddie to Peter Tucker Jan 5, 1814 orginally granted to Thomas Reynolds 1791, bounded by Ashf
Deed Book Q page 246
John Biddie to John Pruitt Jan 29, 1819 land on Cane Creek
witness: Sarah Biddie
Deed Book R page 342
Henry Biddie to John Biddie Feb 17, 1818
The Estate Settlements of Thomas and Edward Biddy help establish (tenative) family relationships.
Thomas Biddie Probate Records Box 4 Pkg. 8 1804
adm. Hollis Biddie and John Biddie
settlement sale includes: Hollis, Mary, Peter, Susannah, Thomas, John
Edward Biddie Probate Records Box 6 Pkg 5 1809
adm. John Biddie, Edmund Biddy, Henry Biddy
estate sale includes: Peter, Edmond, Thomas, Henry
To get a better idea where the Biddys lived, refer to Mills Atlas of South Carolina 1825 Union District. (see enclosed map III)
Note: Hawkins shoals and Grenshaw's (sic) ford. The numerous Biddy tracts were along the Tyger River between the mouth of
Cane Creek and Hawkins shoals in SE Union Co. The Biddy family moved West about 1819. Evidenty the land in Union Co.
was poor and began to give out.
1820 Census SC Union Co.
James Biddy -
John Biddy -
Peter Biddy - all free colored
Thomas Biddy -
I have not found the (white) Biddys in 1820. Presumably they were moving west - Georgia, Alabama, or Tennessee.
1830 Census Alabama Blount Co.
John Biddy (male not given) 1 female (30-40)
free colored: 2 males (55)
1 slave male (10-24)
1840 Census Mississippi Tippah Co.
Edmond Biddy 1 male (>60) 1 female (>60)
Refer to letter from Edward Biddy to his mother living in Tippah Co Miss. 1848. Also refer to 1850 and 1860 Census Texas
for Cass and Marion Co's. respectively.Edward Biddy evidently moved from Walker Co AL to Cass Co. TX between 1840
and 1845 (based on the number of children described in the letter). Note also the close correspondence of ages in the Census
returns and the correlation with birthplaces (in the 1860 census). These are important clues to confirming the family line.
I am not going to elaborate further on the Biddys in Texas. Much of this work is already available. A note on the name
"Pinkney". This is a very important clue as to the Biddy roots. Charles Pinckney, and Charles Cotesworth Pinckney were
important South Carolina Patriots. Both signed the Declaration of Independence. One was Govenor, one ran for the
Presidency, both held numerous state positions. Pinckneyville was an outpost in Union Co. SC.
On the following pages is a tenative genealogy of the Biddy family.
I. Thomas Biddy (parents unknown) born Virginia about 1740 probably along the James river. Married Susannah _______
about 1760. Lived in Cumberland Parish, Lunenburg Co. by 1763. Moved to Union Co. SC by 1772 and died there in 1804.
1. Hollis Biddy- born VA about 1760, Rev War veteran
2. Peter Biddy- Rev War veteran
3. Thomas Biddy Jr- Rev War veteran
4. Mary Biddy
Further descendants of this Biddy line are unknown. Possibly the Thomas Biddy in Tippah Co. Mississippi 1850 census
II. Edward Biddy (brother of Thomas) (parents unknown) born in Virginia ~1740 probably along the James river. Married
_________ ~1760. Lived in St James Parish, Lunenburg Co. VA by 1762. Moved to Union Co. SC with his brother's family
about 1772. Served in local militia during Revolutionary War. Died in Union Co. SC 1809
1. John Biddy- born Lunenburg Co. VA July 17, 1762. Served in Rev War (pension application S 10374) Married Sarah
______ about 1810 (he was nearly 50 so this may have been a second marriage for both). Moved to Blount Co. Alabama
about 1820. Died Marshall Co. AL Aug 16, 1839.
a. James Biddy- born about 1810 in South Carolina
b. Mary Biddy
2. Edmond Biddy- born about 1770, lunenburg Co. VA. Married _______. Moved west about 1820 and living in Tippah
Co. Mississippi in 1840. His wife was still there in 1848?
a. Edward Biddy- born about 1810, Union Co. SC. Moved with his uncles about 1820. Married ~1828 Rhoda
________ probably in Georgia. Living in Blount Co. AL 1830, then moved to Walker Co. AL about 1836. Moved to Cass
Co. Texas about 1845 and died in Morris Co. Naples TX about 1900. Buried Springhill Cemetary. Note children.
3. Henry Biddy- born about 1780, Union Co. SC. Moved to Alabama"
YOU CAN SEE THE ABOVE RESEARCH HAS SOME INTERESTING HYPOTHESIS:
1) the Biddys in SC had slaves whom they freed and closely associated with the family. I don't subscribe tot his theory. Slaves
were a valuable commodity in the pre-Antebellum South. Not many were freed. The researcher overlooks that in almost every
instance the head of the household is named in the census enumeration. Why isn't he (the head) counted as a free whate male
over the age of 16? Isn't it logical that he's one of the free persons of color except Indians, not taxed? The white Biddys are
found in 1820, some in Rutherford County NC. My ancestor's family, Edmond Biddy, is enumerated as all whire during one
census, all are white except the head of the household in another, and in a third instance all are free persons of color except the
spouse. Descendants of Patriots of the Revolution and Biddy veterans of the Civil War weren't of African American heritage,
they claimed Indian blood. Commonly the early census enumerators didn't distinguish bi-racial persons other than colored.
There are very few black Biddy families to be found anywhere, and why would James Biddy of Marshall County AL have both
a free black and a slave in the household?
2) Thomas Biddy and Susannah's (Bacon ?) descendants are unknown. Well they're mentioned in the probate records and later
3) John Biddy the Revolutionary War Pensioner moved to AL before 1830. The ages of the family members in John Biddy's
household at Union County SC support a member aged 70 by 1832 and his spouse aged 90 in 1850. The oldest male in the
John Biddy family 1830 census of Blount County AL would have been 56 in 1850 while the oldest female would have been 60.
This is simply not the same family. The pensioner didn't move to AL til much later on, his pension records indicate when monies
were disbursed thru the SC payment agent and when they began to be paid thru the AL payment agent. If I recollect he also
mentions when he briefly settled in MS before finally moving to Marshall County. AL.
Note that both Peter and Edmond Biddy appear in the Union County SC census in 1810. In 1820 Peter Biddy is still in Union
County SC while Edmond Biddy has moved to Rutherford County NC. I need to do more research into Edmund Biddy being
in Tippah County MS in 1840. I haven't located him in 1830. Apparently Thomas Biddy Jr also located in that area.