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Re: Christopher Barnard from Cormwell England
Posted by: kathryn.b (ID *****3447) Date: May 06, 2008 at 21:22:02
In Reply to: Christopher Barnard from Cormwell England by lorraine lacombe of 2997

Hi Lorraine!

I see that the last child born to your couple in England was:

Name:        Walter J Barnard
Year of Registration:        1912
Quarter of Registration:        Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name:        Ware
District:        Camberwell (1837-1919)
County:        London, Surrey
Volume:        1d
Page:        1682

So either he was their youngest or they emigrated after his birth and had other children in Canada. Unfortunately, the date means they missed the last available Canadian census, 1911, and any children born in Canada were born after 1907, the current cutoff for public access.

Are you looking for Christopher's ancestors or descendants?

There's one Barnard currently listed in the phone book in Kenora:

http://findaperson.canada-411.ca/person

24 in that area code altogether.

As for Christopher's ancestry -- I assume you're referring to CORNWALL, England.

Or hmm, maybe CAMBERWELL -- where Walter's birth was registered?

If Camberwell, I wonder whether this might be his birth:

Name:        Christopher Walter Barnard
Year of Registration:        1885
Quarter of Registration:        Jul-Aug-Sep
District:        Lambeth
County:        Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume:        1d
Page:        491

Do you know FreeBMD?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk
(click on the red "search" in the lower left; ignore the search boxes at the top, which are an Ancestry ad)

I just did a quick search for Barnard married Ware 1890-1915 (before 1911, the surnames are not matched in the index, but FreeBMD will tell you if they appear on the same page) ... and there isn't one.

This looks like the 1885 Christopher in the 1901 census:


Name:        Christopher Barnard
Age:        16
Estimated Birth Year:        1885
Relation:        Son
Father's Name:        James R
Mother's Name:        Mary A
Gender:        Male
Where born:        Camberwell, London, England

-- but what you're really needing, to find him for sure in the census, is your Christopher's parents' names, and without a marriage certificate to get his father's name from ... hmm.

Here is the Camberwell Christopher's marriage:

Marriages Sep 1908
BARNARD        Christopher Walter                Camberwell        1d       1467       
ELWOOD        Frederick Thomas                Camberwell        1d       1467       
PEARSON        Jane Eliza                Camberwell        1d       1467       
PULLINGER        Ellen Louisa                Camberwell        1d       1467

It's before 1911, so we don't know which bride was his. But we can search births after 1911 to see which mother's surname his children had ... and it was Pearson; children Joan, Phyllis and Rebecca, the last one born 1919. So he can't really be yours.


Alrighty then. That's not your Christopher. This is. I've found his marriage, and I've found the problem. There's a mistranscription. I checked the original image.

Marriages Sep 1909
BARNARD        Christopher George        Southwark        1d       148
EVANS        Grace Eleanor                Southwark        1d       148
WINTER        Frederick William        Southwark        1d       148

-- FreeBMD has a bride missing.

... and actually, it isn't a mistranscription, it's an omission. She isn't transcribed yet.

WARE Lily Southwark 1d 148


So after all this, if it's ancestors you're after, that's the info you need to order the marriage certificate:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates


And this is undoubtedly your Christopher's birth:

Name:        Christopher George Barnard
Year of Registration:        1884
Quarter of Registration:        Oct-Nov-Dec
District:        Camberwell (1837-1919)
County:        London, Surrey
Volume:        1d
Page:        937


But that likely is him in the 1901 census, as I reproduced above; this is the rest of the household:

James R Barnard        48 born in Southwark
Mary A Barnard        42
Edwin Barnard        19
Christopher Barnard        16
Arthur J Barnard        12


If you don't have access to the UK censuses, I'd be happy to go back farther for you, if that's what you're after. Just post what you'd like here!





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