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Hiya Dorcas! We may have met on this board some time back, or I may have just read your posts. It was the Thomas Macey connection that suggested to me that your US Barnards might be from Chilmark I guess (combined with me knowing mine were from Mere, down the road) -- I imagine you've noticed that as well. So that's quite fascinating to know, what you found: -- "Thomas Barnard, Chilmark, Wiltshire Co, England" It did not give his birth date but death as 1676. So you have the Barnard(s) who emigrated to the US, but not their place / family of origin in England. I have a wee bit more since I last posted. I got a copy of the removal order I mentioned from the Wiltshire and Swindon Records Office -- which has just moved into new digs and was extremely helpful in response to an email request. They found me the baptisms of my Richard Sr. (baptised 1795, my grx3 grandfather) and the deaths of his parents Benjamin and Mary in the early 1800s, and baptisms of their daughters Ann and Elizabeth, all at St Michael the Archangel Church in Mere. The elder daughter seems to have died in childhood, and son Thomas, who was one yr old in 1791, must have been christened elsewhere. I also hit a big stroke of luck with the FreeREG project -- the ambitious sibling to FreeBMD which is busy transcribing *all* the parish registers in England. http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl Only a tiny fraction of the work has been done -- but somebody did my Barnards in Mere. You mention your people coming from near Barnard Castle. I don't think there are actually any Barnards from around there. ;) The name of the place isn't associated with any genuine Barnards. There's the Yorkshire (Robin Hood's Bay) batch, various clatches around Gloucestershire, the many Berkshire ones, Somerset ... ah, okay, doing a general census search I see a cluster around Hartlepool, Co. Durham. There are others in Wiltshire in the early censuses, in a couple of little places not far from ours and scattered around -- e.g. Fisherton de la Mere, about another 5 miles NE of Chilmark. The Barnards in Wiltshire in later censuses are mostly imports from other places. Including my gr-grparents, actually, who I *think* ended up in Wiltshire (from Kent) in the 1890s by pure coincidence; I believe my gr-grfather played/repaired the organ at the cathedral in Salisbury. Anyhow, back to FreeREG. And Barnard Castle, the bane of googling or searching genealogy sites for Barnards. I found the marriage of my Benjamin Barnard and Mary, my grx4 grandparents, parents of Richard who died in the workhouse. Wait for it now. County - Wiltshire Place - Mere Church - St Michael the Archangel MarriageDate - 18 Jul 1781 GroomForename - Benjamin GroomSurname - BARNARD GroomParish - otp BrideForename - Mary BrideSurname - CASTLE BrideParish - otp Notes - Banns Can you believe it?? Benjamin Barnard married Mary Castle. I'm a Barnard-Castle. I've had no luck tracking her origins down, or his. But I only found that about 6 weeks ago. There's one other marriage so far at FreeCEN, though: Samuel Barnard to Ann Benjafield, 26 Jan 1806. This Samuel is of an age that he could be a son of my Benjamin and Ann, but he wasn't with them for the 1791 removal order from Dorset. So I'm wondering whether, if we're the same clan, my Benjamin was the last of it on that side of the ocean! The only grandchild of his that I know of, my gx2 grfather Richard, was quite fruitful and multiplicacious, however. I've met descendants of three of my gr-grfather's siblings on line. They're not obsessed, or even particularly interested, in all this. I sent them my findings about the removal order and baptisms a while back, and haven't heard a sausage in reply. So. The DNA is an interesting idea -- my brother's DNA might be more useful to you than to me. ;) -- Ah, just read your post up top. It would be excellent if you found someone. I'm planning to get around to doing it on my mum's side, where we actually do have a huge mystery, since I've found out that her grfather's surname wasn't his surname (and thus wasn't actually my mum's surname) at all, and what it really was. And I've just recently learned why he made the change (can you believe "leaving" the English army after 5 years in India, so as not to get sent to ... Afghanistan? the more things change ...) -- but not why his sister was christened with the surname they both adopted, as a given name ... But anyhow, yes, it could be very interesting. I see you have an email address showing; I'll drop you a line. If you are reasonably satisfied that your Barnards came from Chilmark, I'd be very surprised if we aren't descended from common ancestors not long before the early 1600s. And there are quite a slew of you in the US, if I've got that right? Could be interesting - thanks for replying! K Notify Administrator about this message?
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