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DNA connects Samuel Barber MD/VA 1785 to John Barber, Meigs Co OH 1814, but how
Posted by: Alan Barber (ID *****1778) Date: June 26, 2006 at 11:29:46
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Cross posted to Genealogy.com and Ancestry.com.

Johnny William Barber and I, Alan Barber, each had a Y-chromosome test done by FamilyTreeDNA who informed us that we are a perfect 12/12 match. That means we share a male Barber ancestor that neither of us knows about. If you descend from either of the Barbers named above then you do, too. This is a chance to combine the knowledge and genealogical energy of two previously separate efforts into one. Below is a summary of what I know about each family. If you can help connect these two families, please share your information with us.

First, a little about the DNA test: The Y-chromosome is passed, unchanged but for occasional mutations, from father to son; daughters don't get it. Barring testing errors or an "extra-marital event" Johnny's father, father's father, etc, and Alan's father, father's father, etc, have the same Y-chromosome and going back enough generations will reach one individual, our common ancestor. Go to www.familytreedna.com for more information about this test.

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Johnny's male line ancestry (summarized as best Alan can):

G.G.G. Grandfather John Scott Barber born around 1814.....
G.G. Grandfather Samuel Louis Barber, born in Ohio Nov. 17, 1840...
G.Grandfather John Lowell Barber born March 2, 1881...
Grandfather John Lowell Barber born April 29, 1924...
Dad Johnny William Barber
Johnny William Barber

That earliest ancestor, John Scott Barber, appears in the 1840, 1850, and 1860 censuses of Meigs Co, Ohio as John Barber, call him Meigs-John. Later censuses variously show him born in Pennsylvania and Ohio (Johnnie believes Pennsylvania). He married Hester Rose (also called Hette, Harriett, and Esther) and had at least nine children in Meigs Co before moving across the Ohio River to Jackson County, West Virginia, in the 1860s. He shows up there in the 1870 and 1880 censuses and has huge numbers of descendants. Some of them are enumerated on the World Family Tree, of Ancestry.com.

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Alan's male line ancestry:

Alan's pedigree, which reaches back to the Samuel Barber mentioned in the subject line is here: http://www.barberhome.com/family/graves/. In summary:

4th g-grandfather Samuel Barber b ca 1785 MD or VA
3rd g-grandfather John Albert Barber b 1818 LA
2nd g-grandfather Addison Barber b 1849 TX
g-grandfather George Levi Barber b 1874 TX
grandfather Vivian Dale Barber b 1900 TX
father Vernon Barber b 1924 TX
Alan Barber b 1946 IL

This earliest Samuel Barber, call him Texas-Samuel, has been studied thoroughly by our family with very little to show for it. A granddaughter said he "was born in Hagerstown, was orphaned young and raised by an uncle in Harpers Ferry" until he ran away to Louisiana. However in both his marriage document and the 1860 census he gave his birth place as "Virginia." His marriage was in 1813 in Louisiana, where he had seven children before moving to Texas in 1829 and having one more child. All his children raised sizeable families in Texas. In his marriage documents he gave his parents' names as Samuel Barber and Elizabeth Bourroughs. His descendants are documented in a database on my website: www.barberhome.com/family.

Barber researchers first scoured Virginia for signs of this Samuel and Elizabeth, or for an orphan, without luck. Then nine years ago I made a fairly thorough search of the Hagerstown-Harpers Ferry theory and found some interesting possibilites near Washington, DC, but still all very speculative. It's summarized here: http://www.barberhome.com/family/Scratchings/Sam_MD.pdf.

Texas-Samuel's move to Louisiana and his life there is pretty well known and is summarized here: http://www.barberhome.com/family/Scratchings/Sam_LA.pdf.

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Two hypotheses occur to me to explain the relationship between Meigs-John and Texas-Samuel:

1. A Barber family in Pennsylvania east of the Appalachians produces Texas-Samuel's father or grandfather and Meigs-John's grandfather or great-grandfather. Texas-Samuel's family migrates down to Maryland or today's West Virginia. A generation later Meigs-John's family moves to Ohio via the Ohio River. Texas-Samuel may have been born in Maryland, Virginia, or even Pennsylvania--we needn't put much faith in what he knew of his birth or ancestry, given his age when he was orphaned and left home. Meigs-John may have been born in Pennsylvania or Ohio.

2. The common ancestor of Meigs-John and Texas-Samuel may be earlier, even in the British Isles. Possibly the two families were separated and didn't know each other when John and Samuel lived.

Does anyone know where Meigs-John came from? Has anyone done a thorough search of the usual records--marriage, land, tax, probate, etc--in Meigs to try to track him? Any other ideas?


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