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Re: Elizabeth Fortescue Taylor
Posted by: Dennis Grubb (ID *****1849) Date: September 26, 2010 at 18:29:31
In Reply to: Re: Elizabeth Fortescue Taylor by Dennis Grubb of 2435

Thought I'd log my latest thoughts on Elizabeth Fortescue Taylor hoping somone may be able to pick up on something.

My main thought is that this WAS NOT her maiden name.

I am aware of the George Cadby saga but am not convinced she is the correct E F T. But of course E F T is very distinctive and most unlikely to be more than one living about that time. Can be found at http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?path=sessionsPapers%2F18380402.xml

In South Australia Elizabeth Fortescue Taylor married Samuel James Butler on 30 May 1843 in Adelaide, South Australia, Aus., after her first Australian Husband Robert Hobson died. She had a child Robert John Hobson with him b 3 Feb 1842.


1 The South Australian Genealogy Society gives the following biographical info in the Biographical Index of SA 1836-1885

BUTLER Saml Jas b: 1818 CON ENG d: 10.2.1879 Adelaide SA buried: West Terrace Cemetery arrived: 1839 ORLEANA 0cc: Stonemason, Bricklayer res: Adelaide rel: Wes m: 30.5.1843 Adelaide SA Mrs Eliz Fortescue HOBSON nee TAYLOR b: 1818 SOM ENG d: 21.2.1867 Adelaide SA ch: Saml (1844-1922)] Jas. (1845-1898)
AND
HOBSON Robert d: by 1843 arr: 1837 COROMANDEL* occ: Labourer res: Adelaide red: C/E m: 7.8.1841 Mrs Eliz Fortescue TAYLOR b: c1818 SOM ENG d: Rem S) BUTLER ch: Robt John (1842-)

(USE OF ASTERISK AND QUERY MARK
The query mark (?) is used to denote indefinite or doubtful detail. This usually originates from a private submission. The asterisk (*) is used when we have collated information but have no definite proof that it belongs to the entry. This has allowed us to use far more information, and thus facilitate further research, than would otherwise have been possible within the confines of eligibility.
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2. www.familyhistorysa.inf/shipping/passengerlists.html gives the following information

TAYLOR Eliza(beth Fortescue, Mrs?), My (Ann?) arrived 1840-07-07 on William Nichol from Greenock v Dublin 1840-04-02 [Source:2,4,7(R HOBSON,J BATES),26]
TAYLOR George, Mary nee HILL, son arrived 1840-07-07 on William Nichol from Greenock v Dublin 1840-04-02 [Source:2,4,7,23(4),41]
TAYLOR Samuel, Lucinda nee BRENNAN arrived 1840-07-07 on William Nichol from Greenock v Dublin 1840-04-02 [Source:1,2,4,7,41]
Sources:
[1] E A D Opie, South Australian Records prior to 1841, Adelaide, 1917
[2] Register of Emigrant Labourers Applying for a Free Passage to South Australia 1836-1841, PRO CO 386/149-151
[4] South Australian Births Registrations 1842 to 1906, SA Genealogy & Heraldry Soc, 1997
[7] Biographical Index of South Australians 1836-1885, SAGHS, 1986
[23] 1841 South Australia Census Returns, SA Archives, GRG24/13
[26] Barry Leadbeater, South Australia Marriages 1836 to 1855, Adelaide, 2005-2010
[41] Barry Leadbeater, South Australia Births 1836 to 1854, Adelaide, 2010


3. Another researcher.

Another person interested in E F T said her husband died on the journey. I purpose going to the State Archives on the other side of town to look up the passenger list of the William Nichol to see if the death is recorded, which I would have thought to have been required recording.
If this is the case then we donít know her maiden name.

4. The Ship William Nichol
Sailed from Greenock in Scotland and called in to Ireland then on the South Australia.
Did the Taylors in item 2. Above come from Scotland or Ireland. (Interesting that the father of E F T in the Cadby case was in Edinburgh on the court day. Coincidence or meaningful?)


My lineage from Elizabeth Fortescur (Taylor) Butler is
Her daughter Elizabeth Fortescue Butler married Henry Field (my great Grand Parents)
Their son Frank Albert Field married Mary Elizabeth Weeks ( this was Franks second marriage)
Their first born Marjorie Ellen Field is my mother

I do not have you on my list.
Would you let me have your tree from E F T and Samuel James Butler. Only if you want to and I do not give information out to anyone who is not on the tree.
Would you like my info?


Let me know what you think as it not easy to dig through history.

Regards
Dennis Grubb


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