Re: Kronke - Victoria and SA Lookup please
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Kronke - Victoria and SA Lookup please
debbie 1/20/09
Hi Debbie
Found some information on the surname KRONCKE
If you already have the information that I am sending you I am sorry for sending it to you again
regards Michele
KRONCKE [5,12]
Carl (ca 1809)
Mary
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ALFRED
last modified 13 January 2007
No Picture Available The Alfred, a 3 masted ship of 562 ton (om), 604 ton (nm) was built at Lulea, Sweden in 1841 as the Australia.On 30 November 1844, the Australia was purchased from Liliewalch of Stockholm by the Hamburg firm of J C Godeffroy & Sohn, who renamed her the Alfred.
Under the command of H.E. Deckers, the Alfred departed Hamburg, 20 Aug 1848 with 275 passengers on board and arrived in South Australia on 8 Dec 1848.
A second voyage to Adelaide under H.E. Deckers left Hamburg on 27 Oct 1849 and arrived in South Australia on 31 Jan 1850.
The Alfred also undertook a voyage to Melbourne in 1853/1854 under the command of H. Bruhns.
The Alfredwas re-rigged as a bark sometime between 1850 and 1853.She was sold to Norwegian interests in 1855, renamed Rhea, and placed under the command of Captain Eckersberg.No further information is known [4].
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1848 Passenger List
No official passenger list has been located for Alfred.The following list is based on those which appears on various web sites and augmented by information from The Ahrens Family [1] and other references [2,3].
Captain http://homepage.mac.com/graememoad/Family/Ships/alfred.htm#Passenger%20Listhttp://homepage.mac.com/graememoad/Family/Ships/alfred.htm#Passenger%20List
ALFRED 1848 - DIARY
Departed Hamburg, 20th August, 1848 via London, where several passengers embarked
Arrived South Australia, 8th December, 1848. Passengers 275.
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1848Alfred-diary.htmhttp://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1848Alfred-diary.htm
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GENANZ/1997-11/0880947130http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GENANZ/1997-11/0880947130
ALFRED
The ALFRED, variously described as a ship or a bark, was built in Lulea, Sweden, in 1842, and was originally named AUSTRALIA. On 30 November 1844, she was purchased from Liliewalch of Stockholm by the Hamburg firm of Joh. Ces. Godeffroy & Sohn, who renamed her ALFRED, despite the fact that the firm already owned another vessel of this name. 225 Commerzlasten; 133.5 x 32.8 x 19.11 Hamburg Fusse (1 Hamburg Fuss =3D .2=86 meters) length x beam x depth of hold, "zwischen den Steven".. Masters: 1847-1847 - J. Lafrenz; 1847-1851 - H. E. Decker; 1851-1854 - H. Bruhns. Voyages: 1845 - New Orleans; 1845-1846 - Valparaiso/Lima; 1846-1847 - Havre/intermediate ports/New York; 1847-1848 - Arracan/London; 1848-1849 - Adelaide/Callao; 1849-1850 - Adelaide/intermediate ports/London; 1851-1852 - New York/Valparaiso; 1852-1853 - Valdivia/Valparaiso/Iquique; 1853-1854 - Melbourne/intermediate ports/Antwerp. The ALFRED was sold to Norwegian interests in 1855, renamed RHEA, and placed under the command of Capt. Eckersberg. I have no information on her later history or ultimate fate [Walter Kresse, ed., Seeschiffs-Verzeichnis der Hamburger Reedereien, 1824-1888, Mitteilungen aus dem Museum fur Hamburgische Geschichte, N. F., Bd. 5. (Hamburg: Museum fur Hamburgische Geschichte, 1969), vol. 1, p. 165].- [Posted to the Emigration=Ships Mailing List by Michael Palmer - 18 August 1998]
Series Id:
GRG28/5
Register of admissions to the Destitute Asylum
Consignment/Sub-Series:
00000
Unit:
2
Register of admissions to the Destitute Asylum, 1881-1886
Admission NumberNameAgeShip, Years in Aust.Residence
217/1883Kroncke, Carl76Alfred, 34 yearsRedruth Gaol
58/1881Kronke, Carl74Alfred, 32 yearsNot stated
175/1883Kronke, Mary64Alfred Godefroy, 35 yearsKooringa
http://143.216.32.39/archivessrsa/t1tbmain.asp?MainURL=t1tbdui.asp&FunctionName=$SASABKWDSCHhttp://143.216.32.39/archivessrsa/t1tbmain.asp?MainURL=t1tbdui.asp&FunctionName=$SASABKWDSCH
She could well have been born to that family after their arrival in 1848.
Carl and Mary's cemetery records, in Burra:
http://www.goyder.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?c=15497http://www.goyder.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?c=15497
http://www.goyder.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?c=15495http://www.goyder.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?c=15495
http://www.ocba.sa.gov.au/bdm/applying/online/access.htmlhttp://www.ocba.sa.gov.au/bdm/applying/online/access.html
- here's info on obtaining certificates from SA.
(There are some indexes I think - at the state library? - but don't think there's any way to get full info without purchasing the certificate).
http://www.craigkin.com/modules/pgv/indilist.php?alpha=K&surname_sublist=yes&surname=Kronckehttp://www.craigkin.com/modules/pgv/indilist.php?alpha=K&surname_sublist=yes&surname=Kroncke
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=4f8e6b67fbf66bcf5ad2f4114e872246&topic=352332.0http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=4f8e6b67fbf66bcf5ad2f4114e872246&topic=352332.0
Mr.
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ID: I10501
Name: Carl KRONCKE
Sex: M
Birth: 1809
Death: 04 FEB 1890 in South Australia, Australia
Note: Carl Kroncke died in South Australia 4th February 1890, aged 81 years.
Note: I found a C. Kronke arrived in South Australia on the ALFRED on 8 December 1848. The passenger list shows a wife and a child arriving with him but does not name them. If this is the same person, his daughter, Mary Ann Sophia would have been born in South Australia?
Marriage 1 Mary ------ b: 1809
Children
Mary Ann Sophia KRONCKE b: 1861 in Redruth, South Australia, Australia
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=familyhistory200&id=I10501http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=familyhistory200&id=I10501
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