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Re: Major General's Ancestry
Posted by: mike atherton (ID *****3824) Date: November 08, 2008 at 12:36:30
In Reply to: Re: Major General's Ancestry by Michael Egan of 1678

Dear mike,

Thank you for reply and I understand the angle that your are comeing in at.

NOTE. An American friend once said to me "we are two peoples DIVIDED BY A COMMON LANGUAGE" and of course he meant that the thing that we say can convey different meanings in our respective countries.
As far as possible I shall try to avoid jargon.

The case of Atherton & Atherton 1505 was, as I am sure you know a dispute over inherited land .
Thomas Atherton had the right of it and Ralph gambled that Thomas, with no male heir would not fight for these small land holding , but Thomas did.

The Chantry issue was again over land and the question was did it belong to the Parish of Ormskirke or The King.
The land had been left to support a priest and his job was to pray for dead members of the Atherton family.
Following the abolition of Chantry Chapels the land should have passed to the King but it is just possible that the Parish managed to hang on to it .

A one Humphrey Atherton was named in Atherton & Atherton 1505 and as to the significance of the continued use of a first name in a family, it is a case by case judgement .

The Anglo American Humphrey from memory was born over 100 years after this case and which branch of the Atherton Family he was born into needs a lot of thought and I need to look at this in depth and at a later date.

This is a very great question. I know that Major General Humphrey was the son of Edmund and I have seen both his Baptism entry ,his fathers "will" and the inquest into his late fathers Estate.
Beyond that, to the best of my knowledge this matter has not been resolved .

However, in the past I have been told that I am wrong even in the matter of the Baptism of Humphrey, but here I am, a Historian living in the County of Lancashire.
I raised a file some time ago and in due course I will look again at the records I considered at that time.

Hope this is of a little help

Mike


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