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I am also a descendant of Elizabeth Allred who married Wm Horner through their daughter Susannah who married John Coltharp. The Allred family Assoc. in Randolph Co. told me there would be a "report" coming out in January. They don't have parents for the four brothers in Randoph Co. posted so from that--and this debate--I'd say John J's parents are still not proven.
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